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Author:  edders23 [ Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:23 am ]
Post subject:  The cross border safety argument

I personally believe this is an excuse not a reality

1) all taxis are regularly tested the bulk of us twice a year
2) all drivers have to checked and vetted is there really a big difference between councils
3) enforcement is quite rare in many districts with the bulk of LO's sitting in council offices trying to spot mistakes in paperwork and maybe doing on street enforcement one day a year
4) councils talk to one another and by and large operate to very similar practises and levels of regulation

SO can someone explain to me how a car which is routinely inspected becomes unsafe if it crosses a county boundary. I think this is all about people within councils protecting their little empires and is a complete fallacy. A hackney or PH working out of area is still insured still adheres to the three license rule and is still routinely inspected and the driver checked

Author:  heathcote [ Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The cross border safety argument

edders23 wrote:
I personally believe this is an excuse not a reality

1) all taxis are regularly tested the bulk of us twice a year
2) all drivers have to checked and vetted is there really a big difference between councils
3) enforcement is quite rare in many districts with the bulk of LO's sitting in council offices trying to spot mistakes in paperwork and maybe doing on street enforcement one day a year
4) councils talk to one another and by and large operate to very similar practises and levels of regulation

SO can someone explain to me how a car which is routinely inspected becomes unsafe if it crosses a county boundary. I think this is all about people within councils protecting their little empires and is a complete fallacy. A hackney or PH working out of area is still insured still adheres to the three license rule and is still routinely inspected and the driver checked


Insurance can be the down fall of many when not complying with L/A Licensing conditions or even the Road Traffic Act.

Author:  wannabeeahack [ Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The cross border safety argument

heathcote wrote:

Insurance can be the down fall of many when not complying with L/A Licensing conditions or even the Road Traffic Act.


Ive always been asked which LA im in but never had any retsrictions on where i work

Author:  Sussex [ Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The cross border safety argument

Quote:
SO can someone explain to me how a car which is routinely inspected becomes unsafe if it crosses a county boundary.

How can anyone know if the vehicle and driver have been routinely inspected?

How can anyone know if the driver is licensed?

Author:  edders23 [ Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The cross border safety argument

Sussex wrote:
Quote:
SO can someone explain to me how a car which is routinely inspected becomes unsafe if it crosses a county boundary.

How can anyone know if the vehicle and driver have been routinely inspected?

How can anyone know if the driver is licensed?



THE PLATE ATTACHED TO THE VEHICLE !!!

Author:  wannabeeahack [ Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The cross border safety argument

edders23 wrote:
Sussex wrote:
Quote:
SO can someone explain to me how a car which is routinely inspected becomes unsafe if it crosses a county boundary.

How can anyone know if the vehicle and driver have been routinely inspected?

How can anyone know if the driver is licensed?



THE PLATE ATTACHED TO THE VEHICLE !!!


er.........no. only by a BADGE surely?

Author:  Sussex [ Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The cross border safety argument

edders23 wrote:
THE PLATE ATTACHED TO THE VEHICLE !!!

That means nothing, but what about vehicles that run unplated (legally)?

Author:  grandad [ Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The cross border safety argument

Sussex wrote:
edders23 wrote:
THE PLATE ATTACHED TO THE VEHICLE !!!

That means nothing, but what about vehicles that run unplates (legally)?

That is totally different to the situation posed by Edders.

Author:  Sussex [ Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The cross border safety argument

Just because a taxi/PH has a plate on it means diddly squat, other than it has a plate on it.

If a Wolverhampton PH is working in your area, then how do you know the driver driving is licensed? Or even if the vehicle is licensed?

Who do customers complain to? The local council has no authority over the car, the driver, or the operator?

But the safety concern is that local enforcement officers cannot legally stop and check these drivers and vehicles without specific powers, granted by the original licensing authority. Of which there are several 100 in the country.

Is anyone happy with drivers and operator's abusing the system by searching around to get the lowest entry criteria, thus undercutting the local trade? Or drivers being refused licenses in area A only to be licensed in area B, and then working area B?

It's a mess, and it needs sorting?

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