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The question I ask is how can we know they are 'fit & proper' & qualified to judge us ?

Do Councillors undergo background checks & criminal record checks ?

Now a driver up here was recently done on a hand held camera at 57mph in a 30 zone at 3pm and rightly deserves to have the book thrown at him, or be issued with a restricted badge if he can pove it was a "one off" after many years conviction free driving, but for many of us its more the case of 1 or 2mph over the limit, a conviction that is issued daily to many thousands of drivers with the ever incresing amount of cameras, guns, specs and vans that are out on the roads today.

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

Lucky I'm an atheist spelling programme broken again skull? let me think, 7 letter word starting with A

I don't think they're breaking the law by enforcing it :lol:

, and I think these are just guidlines which they presumably don't necessarily have to adhere to.

diesel wrote:

Lucky I'm an atheist spelling programme broken again skull? let me think, 7 letter word starting with A

Don't get it, spell it out for me.

Nice to see you are still around D_ _ _ _ _ _ d 8 letters starts with a d and ends with a d. Here's a clue, look in the mirror. :lol:

As we all know the councillors who are members of licensing boards have enormous power over the daily lifes of taxi/private hire drivers & operators

Indeed they have the power to take away our livelihood if they decide we are not 'fit and proper persons'

The question I ask is how can we know they are 'fit & proper' & qualified to judge us ?

Do Councillors undergo background checks & criminal record checks ?

Some might say the electorate have decided they have the suitable qualifcations but what information do the electorate have ?

Author:	Paisley Buddie [ Sun Mar 19, 2006 1:56 pm ]
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As we all know the councillors who are members of licensing boards have enormous power over the daily lifes of taxi/private hire drivers & operators Indeed they have the power to take away our livelihood if they decide we are not 'fit and proper persons' The question I ask is how can we know they are 'fit & proper' & qualified to judge us ? Do Councillors undergo background checks & criminal record checks ? Some might say the electorate have decided they have the suitable qualifcations but what information do the electorate have ?

Author:	Sussex [ Sun Mar 19, 2006 5:08 pm ]
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Paisley Buddie wrote: The question I ask is how can we know they are 'fit & proper' & qualified to judge us ? Do Councillors undergo background checks & criminal record checks ? I'm pretty sure they do have CRB checks. But if there is something iffy in their past then their political opponents will make dam sure it gets to the press. As for their qualifications, well in all fairness if they had any decent qualifications then they wouldn't be councillors.

Author:	broxibear [ Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:52 pm ]
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well the same kangaroo court applies here in fife as with the rest of the country especially regards speeding. what i would like to know is do they(and i have heard you are up in front of 10 of them) all hold a clean licence and if not what right do they have to revoke a licence application? Now a driver up here was recently done on a hand held camera at 57mph in a 30 zone at 3pm and rightly deserves to have the book thrown at him, or be issued with a restricted badge if he can pove it was a "one off" after many years conviction free driving, but for many of us its more the case of 1 or 2mph over the limit, a conviction that is issued daily to many thousands of drivers with the ever incresing amount of cameras, guns, specs and vans that are out on the roads today. What right do they have to castigate and endanger our livelihood when a percentage in thier "courtroom" have or already hold on their own licence? Is this something that would be avalible under the freedom of information act?

Author:	TDO [ Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:55 am ]
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"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

Author:	Fae Fife [ Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:53 pm ]
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broxibear wrote: Now a driver up here was recently done on a hand held camera at 57mph in a 30 zone at 3pm and rightly deserves to have the book thrown at him, or be issued with a restricted badge if he can pove it was a "one off" after many years conviction free driving, but for many of us its more the case of 1 or 2mph over the limit, a conviction that is issued daily to many thousands of drivers with the ever incresing amount of cameras, guns, specs and vans that are out on the roads today. Don't know about your part of Fife broxibear, but up here apart from the odd camera van that's about it really - and since I usually work nights, when I don't think they come out much, I've only seen one speed trap of any kind for a couple of years. I don't think there are any fixed speed cameras in Fife at all, and the nearest ones are the other side of the Forth Bridge and north of Dundee on the trunk road to Aberdeen. I've never heard of anyone being done for being 1 or 2 mph over the limit, is this common? I thought it was usually 10% at least.

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Author:	Fae Fife [ Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:54 pm ]
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BTW, I'm talking North East/St Andrews in particular.

Author:	skippy41 [ Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:57 pm ]
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The traffic police hide down here, and just point the gun around the corner, I pulled 2 of them up on Friday night and told them they are breaking the law and I would speak to the inspector if the did not do there job by the book, IE stand well out in the open, where they can be seen and hold the gun with both hands,they pulled me but could not find nothing wrong, having just been inspected by the vehicle inspectors 2 weeks earlier, 120 cabs passed the inspection by the way and 3 where given warnings for bulbs 1 for a tyre on the limit

Author:	TDO [ Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:13 am ]
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I don't think they're breaking the law by enforcing it , and I think these are just guidlines which they presumably don't necessarily have to adhere to. After all, if they did what you wanted then if everyone was paying attention then no one would ever be caught speeding, thus there would be no point in having speed limits?

Author:	Skull [ Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:25 am ]
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TDO wrote: "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." Here's me hoping TDO you are not one of these religious nuts like Tony Blair? Thank feck I don't need a reason to have a jolly good punch up. I only need to be right, and as I am never wrong I am always right. Why? because god says Lucky I'm an atheist

Author:	diesel [ Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:12 pm ]
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Lucky I'm an atheist spelling programme broken again skull? let me think, 7 letter word starting with A

Author:	Skull [ Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:30 pm ]
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diesel wrote: Lucky I'm an atheist spelling programme broken again skull? let me think, 7 letter word starting with A Don't get it, spell it out for me. Nice to see you are still around D_ _ _ _ _ _ d 8 letters starts with a d and ends with a d. Here's a clue, look in the mirror.

Author:	smiffyz (geoff) [ Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:23 pm ]
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TDO wrote: I don't think they're breaking the law by enforcing it , and I think these are just guidlines which they presumably don't necessarily have to adhere to. They do! ACPO guidlines state that the Officer must use the gun to confirm his opinion that your speeding, not just point at every car that passes, so hiding in a bush, jumping out and doing you shouldnt happen (in England anyway) if it does, then theres lots of case law to show that speeding fines have been thrown out.

Author:	diesel [ Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:55 pm ]
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Skull wrote: diesel wrote: Lucky I'm an atheist spelling programme broken again skull? let me think, 7 letter word starting with A Don't get it, spell it out for me. Nice to see you are still around D_ _ _ _ _ _ d 8 letters starts with a d and ends with a d. Here's a clue, look in the mirror. OK so i am DISABLED but you still have to take my wheelchair in your taxi!!!!!!

Author:	Fae Fife [ Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:05 pm ]
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Paisley Buddie wrote: As we all know the councillors who are members of licensing boards have enormous power over the daily lifes of taxi/private hire drivers & operators Indeed they have the power to take away our livelihood if they decide we are not 'fit and proper persons' The question I ask is how can we know they are 'fit & proper' & qualified to judge us ? Do Councillors undergo background checks & criminal record checks ? Some might say the electorate have decided they have the suitable qualifcations but what information do the electorate have ? I don't know much about this, but a story in the Dundee Tele tonight says that councillors in Angus are to be vetted soon. Reading between the lines it looks as if it will only come in after the next election and will only be compulosry for child-related duties. I wonder who will decide whether they pass or not, or maybe the councillors will be judgeing thier peers for a change.

Author:	Fae Fife [ Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:07 pm ]
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Forgot to copy the story, but it's quite short. BTW, I think Disclosure Scotland is the same as the CRB. Councillors to be vetted Checks on all Angus councillors are to be mounted to ensure they are fit to carry out child-related duties. The councillors opted against waiting until the next election to undergo enhanced Disclosure Scotland tests and agreed to be put through the vetting process immediately. Members of the strategic policy committee backed the move inspired by Councillor Iain Gaul, who felt the checks should apply across the board — and not solely for those with direct involvement in issues dealing with children. http://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/outpu ... 687t0.shtm

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