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Author:  edders23 [ Mon Dec 05, 2022 10:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Proof electric cars do pollute !
video on website better

A section of the M1 is closed in both directions as firefighters tackle a car transporter blaze.
Both carriageways were shut at about 13:40 GMT after a fire broke out on the southbound carriageway between junctions 26 and 27.
Nottinghamshire Fire and Service said seven electric vehicles on the transporter were "well alight".
Highways England said it was a "complex recovery" and closures were expected to stay in place throughout the evening.

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The motorway has been closed northbound between junctions 26 and 27 and southbound between junctions 28 and 26.
Nottinghamshire Fire and Rescue Service said: "The north and southbound roads will remain closed until all of the vehicles have been safely removed.
"This will likely be after 21:00 tonight."
No injuries have been reported, the fire service added.

Earlier, it said there was a "large smoke plume" and advised motorists to avoid the area.



Loads of clag and they say coal fires are bad !
Author:  x-ray [ Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Proof electric cars do pollute !
Similar thing near here on the A55 a few months ago, a minor shunt, whiplash injury. The small electric car caught fire, A55 closed in both directions for 6 hours. eusasmiles.zip
Author:  Rebel-Taxi-Driver [ Tue Dec 06, 2022 12:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Proof electric cars do pollute !
There has already been a lot of proof showing the pollution involved in the manufacture and running of an EV.

Around a half a million tonnes of earth dug out the ground to make just one (yes 1) EV battery.

They are also heavy vehicles compared to ICE cars so put more wear and tear on the roads.

The electricity generated to charge EVs is from plants such as gas and coal etc.

They are anything but green.
Author:  grandad [ Tue Dec 06, 2022 8:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Proof electric cars do pollute !
Rebel-Taxi-Driver wrote:

The electricity generated to charge EVs is from plants such as gas and coal etc.

I don't think that it is possible to differentiate between all the different ways to generate electricity to be able to say that the electricity to charge these vehicles has come from gas or coal generation any more that it can be said that the electricity provided by the grid for your home is, as stated by some company's, 100% green.
Author:  edders23 [ Tue Dec 06, 2022 12:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Proof electric cars do pollute !
Rebel-Taxi-Driver wrote:
There has already been a lot of proof showing the pollution involved in the manufacture and running of an EV.

Around a half a million tonnes of earth dug out the ground to make just one (yes 1) EV battery.

They are also heavy vehicles compared to ICE cars so put more wear and tear on the roads.

The electricity generated to charge EVs is from plants such as gas and coal etc.

They are anything but green.



the problem is that when they are driving around the streets of London nothing is coming out of the tail pipe and that is all the politicians are bothered about !
Author:  wannabeeahack [ Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Proof electric cars do pollute !
My diesel VW is totally green






I dont drive it
Author:  Rebel-Taxi-Driver [ Tue Dec 06, 2022 10:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Proof electric cars do pollute !
Too true edders.

Like anything we buy it's alright if it is made in another country. The emissions and pollution are exported. And the carbon. Gets us that little bit closer to hitting those carbon targets.

Now we don't hardly make anything and just sip lattes and bounce emails around for an economy. Nobody has any money but I suppose the air is cleaner so that is a bonus. posting.php?mode=reply&f=1&t=39013#

Good luck trying to have enough electricity generation with wind farms when there are more EVs on the road. The electricity cannot be stored so whatever is generated has to be used or it is wasted.

Also good luck if there is no wind. It will be a nice surprise for the politicians when the wind turbines have to be replaced after 20-25 years. Especially when they see how much copper and concrete is required for just 1 turbine. They are already very expensive to produce.

I am sure it will all end well.
Author:  grandad [ Wed Dec 07, 2022 8:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Proof electric cars do pollute !
Rebel-Taxi-Driver wrote:
The electricity cannot be stored so whatever is generated has to be used or it is wasted.

The control systems are very sophisticated and adjust to produce the amount that is needed at any time without over producing so there is not a lot of surplus and some storage is in place via batteries.
Author:  Rebel-Taxi-Driver [ Wed Dec 07, 2022 11:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Proof electric cars do pollute !
grandad wrote:
Rebel-Taxi-Driver wrote:
The electricity cannot be stored so whatever is generated has to be used or it is wasted.

The control systems are very sophisticated and adjust to produce the amount that is needed at any time without over producing so there is not a lot of surplus and some storage is in place via batteries.


There is a little but compared to the alternatives it is very inefficient and expensive to produce.

Battery technology would need a miracle improvement to even get close to competing with coal, gas & nuclear etc.

As a Brit I would want the politicians to be encouraging the industry to focus on those technologies and not wind.
Author:  edders23 [ Wed Dec 07, 2022 3:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Proof electric cars do pollute !
Rebel-Taxi-Driver wrote:
grandad wrote:
Rebel-Taxi-Driver wrote:
The electricity cannot be stored so whatever is generated has to be used or it is wasted.

The control systems are very sophisticated and adjust to produce the amount that is needed at any time without over producing so there is not a lot of surplus and some storage is in place via batteries.


There is a little but compared to the alternatives it is very inefficient and expensive to produce.

Battery technology would need a miracle improvement to even get close to competing with coal, gas & nuclear etc.

As a Brit I would want the politicians to be encouraging the industry to focus on those technologies and not wind.


of course all those banks of emergency generators hidden in farmyards never get a mention when discussing wind turbines ! :lol: :-$
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