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Author:  edders23 [ Sun Dec 11, 2022 8:30 pm ]
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Stamford Community Speed Watch

It's not as if they can recover the money in fines now is it !

A new group is helping to catch drivers not sticking to the rules - or speed limit.
After fielding hundreds of complaints about speeding, Coun Richard Cleaver decided to take action to try catch the drivers.
He put his case to Stamford Town Council and after months it was agreed that funds would be provided for speed watch kit which cost about £300. :evil:

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oh look they are operating just round the corner from his house :roll:

The group currently covers Roman Bank, Tinwell Road, Barnack Road, Casterton Road, Little Casterton Road, Sidney Farm Lane, Empingham Road, Drift Road and Cedar Road.

They're out twice a week at peak times and details of any drivers caught are sent to the police.

'Prolific offenders' can expect a knock on the door from officers.

Speed is one of the 'fatal four' reasons for road deaths in the UK alongside drink or drug driving, not wearing a seatbelt and the use of mobile devices while behind the wheel.[/img]
oh look he's operating just round the corner from his house :roll:

Tricia Lipton lives on Barnack Road and signed up to help after becoming worried about residents on her street. She has since realised that it is a wider problem across the town.
"It is about educating people about speeding and protecting the community," she said. " I think a lot of people don't realise how fast they are going. very Naïve

"We have found this particularly with electric cars."

Volunteer Diana Culshaw decided to join the group because she worries for her grandchildren when they cross the road.
The group currently covers Roman Bank, Tinwell Road, Barnack Road, Casterton Road, Little Casterton Road, Sidney Farm Lane, Empingham Road, Drift Road and Cedar Road.

must admit most cars do around 50 in a 30 here but it does connect to the A1 I'm sure they'll love stepping in all the doggy do that lines the footpath along there because they won't tackle that issue !

They're out twice a week at peak times and details of any drivers caught are sent to the police.
'Prolific offenders' can expect a knock on the door from officers.
Speed is one of the 'fatal four' reasons for road deaths in the UK alongside drink or drug driving, not wearing a seatbelt and the use of mobile devices while behind the wheel.
Author:  Sussex [ Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:09 pm ]
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Quote:
'Prolific offenders' can expect a knock on the door from officers.

No they wont.
Author:  grandad [ Mon Dec 12, 2022 8:11 am ]
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Around here you get a letter from the police to let you know that you were over the speed limit.
Author:  edders23 [ Mon Dec 12, 2022 9:52 am ]
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grandad wrote:
Around here you get a letter from the police to let you know that you were over the speed limit.



we have a particularly active group in a nearby village who used to be out there at 6am twice a week for 2 to 3 months ! If you weren't paying attention you got a letter saying you were a couple of miles an hour above 30. But as they are not an officially authorised you cannot be prosecuted.

We used to have a similar group in Ketton who you would see huddled around a clip board. On one occasion I had my speed dead on 30mph ;didn't see any speed gun pointed at me and 4 pensioners huddled around a clip board. Low and behold I got a letter saying I was doing 40 ! The letter stated that I cannot challenge it or discuss the matter with Leicestershire police. That particular vigilante speed group disappeared for good so I suspect the police realised that there were a lot of cars all seemingly doing 40 !
Author:  wannabeeahack [ Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:50 am ]
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Sussex wrote:
Quote:
'Prolific offenders' can expect a knock on the door from officers.

OH No they wont.


Oh yes they will (on the 3rd time caught)
Author:  wannabeeahack [ Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:52 am ]
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I got one 2 years, just the warning letter, 35 in a 30

I checked my dashcam which showed they had detected me at 35 just BEFORE the 30 signs, in a 60...

I wrote in and got an apology and deletion off the database
Author:  Sussex [ Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:17 pm ]
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wannabeeahack wrote:
Sussex wrote:
Quote:
'Prolific offenders' can expect a knock on the door from officers.

OH No they wont.


Oh yes they will (on the 3rd time caught)

I have never seen or heard about anyone ever ending up in court, or fined via fixed penalty, based on the evidence from these pretend police.
Author:  grandad [ Wed Dec 14, 2022 8:34 am ]
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Sussex wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
Sussex wrote:
Quote:
'Prolific offenders' can expect a knock on the door from officers.

OH No they wont.


Oh yes they will (on the 3rd time caught)

I have never seen or heard about anyone ever ending up in court, or fined via fixed penalty, based on the evidence from these pretend police.
To be fair, nowhere does it say you will end up in court. It says the police will visit you. This will be to offer "words of advice".
Author:  Sussex [ Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:30 am ]
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Has anyone ever been visited by police after 3 letters?

What happens if you tell the police to go away? Or words to that effect.

Nothing.

All that said it’s not good to exceed the speed limit, but the law must be enforced by proper police officers, not pretend ones.
Author:  grandad [ Wed Dec 14, 2022 2:58 pm ]
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Sussex wrote:

All that said it’s not good to exceed the speed limit, but the law must be enforced by proper police officers, not pretend ones.
Aren't the people who operate the camera vans civilians?
Author:  edders23 [ Wed Dec 14, 2022 4:36 pm ]
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grandad wrote:
Sussex wrote:

All that said it’s not good to exceed the speed limit, but the law must be enforced by proper police officers, not pretend ones.
Aren't the people who operate the camera vans civilians?



yes but they have special permission from magistrates to operate the camera vans at certain locations and they are contractors to the police. They operate the vans and they run the "awareness" courses.

It's a similar situation to using civilian staff to man enquiry desks and issue letters and postal notices in that they are employed by the police with limited powers. The vigilante speed traps are volunteers and have no legal powers.
Author:  Sussex [ Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:10 pm ]
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grandad wrote:
Sussex wrote:

All that said it’s not good to exceed the speed limit, but the law must be enforced by proper police officers, not pretend ones.
Aren't the people who operate the camera vans civilians?

Working for the police.
Author:  wannabeeahack [ Thu Dec 15, 2022 12:14 am ]
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Sussex wrote:
grandad wrote:
Sussex wrote:

All that said it’s not good to exceed the speed limit, but the law must be enforced by proper police officers, not pretend ones.
Aren't the people who operate the camera vans civilians?

Working for the police.


Speedvans are civvies the neighbourhood cameras are volunteers (dads army)
Author:  grandad [ Thu Dec 15, 2022 12:19 am ]
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Sussex wrote:
grandad wrote:
Sussex wrote:

All that said it’s not good to exceed the speed limit, but the law must be enforced by proper police officers, not pretend ones.
Aren't the people who operate the camera vans civilians?

Working for the police.
So not proper police but still enforcing the law.
Author:  heathcote [ Thu Dec 15, 2022 12:49 am ]
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grandad wrote:
Sussex wrote:
grandad wrote:
Sussex wrote:

All that said it’s not good to exceed the speed limit, but the law must be enforced by proper police officers, not pretend ones.
Aren't the people who operate the camera vans civilians?

Working for the police.
So not proper police but still enforcing the law.


Civilians park the van and leave it,camera does the enforcement. Exacly the same as a fixed speed camera both are then downloaded in all probability by a civilian employee who will note any offenders.
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