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It has been suggested by some in the Manchester hackney carriage trade that Private hire drivers should have their license fee increased substantially, in order to pay for the enforcing of, wait for it, "Private hire drivers".

Substantially, has been mooted as being in the region of a 70% increase in fees, in line with the hike attributed to hack owners paying for Marshals.

Rather controversial but what do you think?

JD wrote:

Why let case law get in the way of a good moan up. [-(

Sorry Sussex :wink:

but in some areas they are like a plague.
Personally I would like to see PH scraped

skippy41 wrote:

Sorry Sussex :wink:

but in some areas they are like a plague.
Personally I would like to see PH scraped

You missed the point, we are talking about driver's licenses here.

If we were talking about vehicle licenses, then a council already has enough powers to set fees to include the costs of enforcement.

OK charge them double :wink:

But would I be correct in saying that most councils issue combined badges, ours does.

But I still say all PH should be made hack then we can all sing the same song

skippy41 wrote:

OK charge them double :wink:

But would I be correct in saying that most councils issue combined badges, ours does.

But I still say all PH should be made hack then we can all sing the same song

Believe it or not, Naleo share your enthusiasm for a one tier system.

Regards

JD

The implimentation of a single tier system would decimate everyone currently involved in the trade, as it would allow those previously excluded to become involved.

B. Lucky

Well JD, it might be worth pushing for, it would make things a dam sight easier, then all we would need to do is get rid of all the out dated rules and regs by re writing the rule book for the modern era, but going by the meeting of minds post its going to take a lot of work

I wonder how many PHs would want to comply with the DDA and buy a WAV?

gusmac wrote:

I wonder how many PHs would want to comply with the DDA and buy a WAV?

Gus They would not have to buy a wav, just change to hackney, then in a short while the numbers would sort themselves out

Author:	JD [ Mon Oct 08, 2007 1:57 am ]
Post subject:	Should P/H drivers pay extra for policing P/H drivers?
It has been suggested by some in the Manchester hackney carriage trade that Private hire drivers should have their license fee increased substantially, in order to pay for the enforcing of, wait for it, "Private hire drivers". Substantially, has been mooted as being in the region of a 70% increase in fees, in line with the hike attributed to hack owners paying for Marshals. Rather controversial but what do you think? Regards JD

Author:	Sussex [ Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:10 am ]
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JD wrote: It has been suggested by some in the Manchester hackney carriage trade that Private hire drivers should have their license fee increased substantially, in order to pay for the enforcing of, wait for it, "Private hire drivers". Substantially, has been mooted as being in the region of a 70% increase in fees, in line with the hike attributed to hack owners paying for Marshals. Rather controversial but what do you think? Why let case law get in the way of a good moan up.

Author:	JD [ Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:24 am ]
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Sussex wrote: JD wrote: It has been suggested by some in the Manchester hackney carriage trade that Private hire drivers should have their license fee increased substantially, in order to pay for the enforcing of, wait for it, "Private hire drivers". Substantially, has been mooted as being in the region of a 70% increase in fees, in line with the hike attributed to hack owners paying for Marshals. Rather controversial but what do you think? Why let case law get in the way of a good moan up. Some people never stop to think of the legalities surrounding such proposals? If an attempt was ever made to try and implement such an idea then a court case is bound to follow. Regards JD

Author:	skippy41 [ Mon Oct 08, 2007 12:25 pm ]
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They should be charged the same as a hack, and have extra tests be all 1 colour yellow, so they can be spotted from a distance, all new drivers should have a knowledge test ,all councils should make sure that they have all the tax details and national insurance numbers of all owners and drivers, if they did this how many would be on the street??? as no details no licence. Sorry Sussex but in some areas they are like a plague. Personally I would like to see PH scraped

Author:	Sussex [ Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:03 pm ]
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skippy41 wrote: Sorry Sussex but in some areas they are like a plague. Personally I would like to see PH scraped You missed the point, we are talking about driver's licenses here. If we were talking about vehicle licenses, then a council already has enough powers to set fees to include the costs of enforcement.

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Author:	skippy41 [ Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:10 pm ]
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Sussex wrote: skippy41 wrote: Sorry Sussex but in some areas they are like a plague. Personally I would like to see PH scraped You missed the point, we are talking about driver's licenses here. If we were talking about vehicle licenses, then a council already has enough powers to set fees to include the costs of enforcement. OK charge them double But would I be correct in saying that most councils issue combined badges, ours does. But I still say all PH should be made hack then we can all sing the same song

Author:	JD [ Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:13 pm ]
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skippy41 wrote: OK charge them double But would I be correct in saying that most councils issue combined badges, ours does. But I still say all PH should be made hack then we can all sing the same song Believe it or not, Naleo share your enthusiasm for a one tier system. Regards JD

Author:	skippy41 [ Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:17 pm ]
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JD wrote: skippy41 wrote: OK charge them double But would I be correct in saying that most councils issue combined badges, ours does. But I still say all PH should be made hack then we can all sing the same song Believe it or not, Naleo share your enthusiasm for a one tier system. Regards JD Well JD, it might be worth pushing for, it would make things a dam sight easier, then all we would need to do is get rid of all the out dated rules and regs by re writing the rule book for the modern era, but going by the meeting of minds post its going to take a lot of work

Author:	GA [ Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:20 am ]
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The implimentation of a single tier system would decimate everyone currently involved in the trade, as it would allow those previously excluded to become involved. B. Lucky

Author:	skippy41 [ Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:26 pm ]
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GA wrote: The implimentation of a single tier system would decimate everyone currently involved in the trade, as it would allow those previously excluded to become involved. B. Lucky Well GA, there may be a few casualties on the cards, but after searching the web, I have come to the conclusion that only the UK has PH vehicles. So if a single tier works in the rest of the world why not here. What would happen if the muppets in Europe decided that's what will happen and they tell our government to implement it strait away.

Author:	JD [ Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:12 pm ]
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skippy41 wrote: Well JD, it might be worth pushing for, it would make things a dam sight easier, then all we would need to do is get rid of all the out dated rules and regs by re writing the rule book for the modern era, but going by the meeting of minds post its going to take a lot of work Well funny enough NALEO also want a complete new modern act. It seams the only people who don't want a new act are those who fear change. Regards JD

Author:	captain cab [ Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:13 pm ]
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Skippy, So you'd like to see all of those PH cars you were moaning about earlier turned into HC's? CC

Author:	gusmac [ Tue Oct 09, 2007 3:37 pm ]
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I wonder how many PHs would want to comply with the DDA and buy a WAV?

Author:	skippy41 [ Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:38 pm ]
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gusmac wrote: I wonder how many PHs would want to comply with the DDA and buy a WAV? Guss They would not have to buy a wav, just change to hackney, then in a short while the numbers would sort themselves out

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Author:	gusmac [ Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:45 pm ]
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skippy41 wrote: gusmac wrote: I wonder how many PHs would want to comply with the DDA and buy a WAV? Gus They would not have to buy a wav, just change to hackney, then in a short while the numbers would sort themselves out They would here. If the council allowed nearly 200 PH to become saloon hacks when everyone else was required to go WAV since 1995, there would be a riot!