Taxi Driver Online

UK cab trade debate and advice
It is currently Fri May 01, 2026 7:38 pm

All times are UTC [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 8 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:57 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:53 pm
Posts: 10381
Some interesting statistics in respect of Self employment and in particular those involved in taxi driving and transport.

I wonder why the DfT has never produced a break down of such figures in any of their many reports? Perhaps they thought it best that TDO publish the figures on their behalf? I can't see any reason why the DfT shouldn't produce such figures in future reports especially considering the fact that we have an ever increasing influx of Eastern Europeans into the Taxi and other Transport trades.

I must admit I'm not surprised at these figures especially those relating to the number of Pakistani taxi drivers.

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=463

I think the self employment patterns should be considered in conjunction with the population figures listed below.

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=455

Another interesting factor is that Jewish people were most likely to be self-employed in Great Britain in 2003-2004, followed by Muslims. Both groups were more likely than Christians, Sikhs and those with no religion to be self-employed. Around one in three Jewish people and around one in five Muslims were self-employed. This compared with around one in ten Christians, Sikhs and those with no religion.

Another enlightening statistic is that Muslim and Sikh men are the least likely to be working in managerial or professional occupations (less than a third of these groups), and the most likely to be working in low skilled jobs.

Muslim men are six times more likely than Christians or those with no religion to be taxi drivers.

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/CCI/nugget.asp?ID=1386
____________________________

Self-employment patterns.

Pakistanis most likely to be self-employed


In 2004 people in employment from Pakistani, Chinese and White Irish groups were more likely to be self-employed than those in other ethnic groups in Great Britain. One in five Pakistanis in employment were self-employed (21 per cent), as were just under one in six Chinese (16 per cent) and White Irish (15 per cent) people. This compared with around one in ten (12 per cent) White British people and fewer than one in ten people from a Mixed or Black ethnic group.

Industry

Certain ethnic groups are concentrated in particular industries. In 2004, three fifths of Bangladeshi men and just under half of Chinese men in employment worked in the distribution, hotel and restaurant industry, compared with one sixth of their White British counterparts.

Pakistani men were the group most likely to work in the transport and communication industry - 23 per cent of them worked in this sector compared with 10 per cent of employed men overall.

White Irish men were more likely than other men to work in the construction industry - 20 per cent compared with 13 per cent overall.

Bangladeshi and Chinese women are also concentrated in the distribution, hotel and restaurant industry. Two in five Chinese women and one in three Bangladeshi women worked in this industry in 2004, compared with one in five of all women in employment. Half of Black Caribbean and Black African women (54 per cent and 52 per cent respectively) worked in the public administration, education or health sector.

Occupation

People in employment in managerial or professional occupations: by ethnic group, 2004, GB

Those most likely to be employed in managerial or professional occupations were from the Chinese, Indian, White Irish, and other non-British White groups (between 32 and 38 per cent).

White British people had lower rates of people working in managerial or professional occupations (27 per cent) than those groups.

The groups with the lowest proportions of managers or professionals were the Black Caribbeans, Black Africans and Bangladeshis (between 19 per cent and 22 per cent).

Looking at particular jobs, one in seven Pakistani men in employment was a taxi driver, cab driver or chauffeur, compared with 1 in 100 White British men.

Over a quarter of Bangladeshi men were chefs, cooks or waiters compared with 1 in 100 White British men. The proportion of Indian men working as medical practitioners, at 4 per cent, was around 10 times higher than the rate for White British men.

Among women in employment, around one in ten women from the Black African group and one in seven women from the Other Asian group were working as nurses in 2004, compared with around 1 in 30 White British women. Indian, Pakistani and Black African women were around four times more likely than White British women to be working as packers, bottlers, canners and fillers. Pakistani and Indian women were respectively around six times and four times more likely than White British women to be working as sewing machinists.

Source: Annual Population Survey, January 2004 to December 2004, Office for National Statistics

Notes:

The White Irish group has been derived using the Annual Population Survey national identity variables.

Self-employment, occupation and industry rates are as a proportion of all in employment.

The Other Black group is omitted from the charts as the sample size is too small for reliable estimates.
_________________

_________________
Copyright notice © The contents of this post are copyright of JD and are not to be reproduced outside of TDO without written permission.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:40 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:53 pm
Posts: 10381
Looking back at the DfT taxi and private hire driver stats of 2004 for England and Wales excluding London, there were 214.888 combined licensed H/C and private hire drivers.

Dual H/C & P/H licenses. 57,575

H/C only driver licenses. 72,865

P/H only Driver licenses. 84,448

______________________

Regards

JD

_________________
Copyright notice © The contents of this post are copyright of JD and are not to be reproduced outside of TDO without written permission.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:31 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:27 pm
Posts: 20130
In 2004 people in employment from Pakistani, Chinese and White Irish groups were more likely to be self-employed than those in other ethnic groups in Great Britain. One in five Pakistanis in employment were self-employed (21 per cent), as were just under one in six Chinese (16 per cent) and White Irish (15 per cent) people. This compared with around one in ten (12 per cent) White British people and fewer than one in ten people from a Mixed or Black ethnic group.


Maths was not the stong subject then. When I went to school 1 in ten was 10%. :lol:

_________________
Grandad,


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:20 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:53 pm
Posts: 10381
grandad wrote:
In 2004 people in employment from Pakistani, Chinese and White Irish groups were more likely to be self-employed than those in other ethnic groups in Great Britain. One in five Pakistanis in employment were self-employed (21 per cent), as were just under one in six Chinese (16 per cent) and White Irish (15 per cent) people. This compared with around one in ten (12 per cent) White British people and fewer than one in ten people from a Mixed or Black ethnic group.


Maths was not the stong subject then. When I went to school 1 in ten was 10%. :lol:


These are not my figures, but in defence of the National Statistics I would have thought that the statistic itself was both self explanatory and elementary. If 1 in 10 equals 12% then what is a 100%. I'll tell you one thing for nothing, it certainly isn't a 100 as you imply.

Regards

JD

_________________
Copyright notice © The contents of this post are copyright of JD and are not to be reproduced outside of TDO without written permission.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:57 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:27 pm
Posts: 20130
JD wrote:
grandad wrote:
In 2004 people in employment from Pakistani, Chinese and White Irish groups were more likely to be self-employed than those in other ethnic groups in Great Britain. One in five Pakistanis in employment were self-employed (21 per cent), as were just under one in six Chinese (16 per cent) and White Irish (15 per cent) people. This compared with around one in ten (12 per cent) White British people and fewer than one in ten people from a Mixed or Black ethnic group.


Maths was not the stong subject then. When I went to school 1 in ten was 10%. :lol:


These are not my figures, but in defence of the National Statistics I would have thought that the statistic itself was both self explanatory and elementary. If 1 in 10 equals 12% then what is a 100%. I'll tell you one thing for nothing, it certainly isn't a 100 as you imply.

Regards

JD


I never said they were your figures did I. I didn't imply anything at all I only pointed out that 1 in 10 is 10% What is your problem?

_________________
Grandad,


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:52 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:47 pm
Posts: 20858
Location: Stamford Britains prettiest town till SKDC ruined it
Those figures are all very well but don't explain why this is the case. in my area we are feeling the full brunt of this as more and more drivers of muslim asian origin crowd into the local taxi trade.

More and more pakistani nationals are marrying into british muslim families and the communities are hard pressed to find work for them so its the easy option to give them a car and a badge and put them out on the road taxi driving

Its a shame that those figures aren't further broken down into what types of self employment they are in I would not be surprised if the majority of them were NOT skilled workers with a trade (plunbers,builders etc) but worked as taxi drivers or couriers i.e. jobs where the only required skill is a driving license


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:28 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 03, 2003 7:30 pm
Posts: 57355
Location: 1066 Country
grandad wrote:
What is your problem?

All those thoughts of the Manchester 'ladies of the night' has got him flustered. 8-[

_________________
IDFIMH


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:53 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:31 pm
Posts: 12045
Location: Aberdeen
edders23 wrote:
...where the only required skill is a driving license


There in lies the problem.
Standards have to be better, so we can seriously call ourselves a skilled trade. You cant just buy a DIY book and a plunger and call yourself a plumber.
Tests for street knowledge, spoken english ...........etc.

_________________
Image
http://wingsoverscotland.com/ http://www.newsnetscotland.com/
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 8 posts ] 

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 217 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group