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| Author: | Guest [ Thu Jul 22, 2004 3:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | IS H/C THAT GOOD |
if H/C is so good why do they need to do private hire work on a radio as well, putting it their way, nicking our work, seems unfair that the can do both and P/H cant its about time they issued just one type of licence to do both so we are all the same like they do in the rest of europe. 
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| Author: | Alex [ Thu Jul 22, 2004 5:14 pm ] |
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I think such thoughts are shared by many, but not by all. 
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| Author: | Guest [ Thu Jul 22, 2004 5:15 pm ] |
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Alex wrote: I think such thoughts are shared by many, but not by all.
Alex you mean maybe hackney drivers? |
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| Author: | Southport PH [ Thu Jul 22, 2004 6:54 pm ] |
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I was going to ask a similar question. 
Here in Southport we have 3 PH firms and two Hackney firms who both do door to door aswell as rank work. Now if one of those Hackney vehicles was to get a job off their radio does this make them a temporary PH vehicle or do they remain a Hackney at all times?
Must admit if it wasn't for the PH brigade then town centres at night would be empty meaing the Hackneys wouldn't have much work. 
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| Author: | John Davies [ Thu Jul 22, 2004 7:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: IS H/C THAT GOOD |
Anonymous wrote: if H/C is so good why do they need to do private hire work on a radio as well, putting it their way, nicking our work, seems unfair that the can do both and P/H cant its about time they issued just one type of licence to do both so we are all the same like they do in the rest of europe.
In the majority of licensing areas there are no restrictions on who can pick up off the street so in effect it could be argued that they have only one licensing system. The downside to that of course, is that in some Authorities a certain type of vehicle must be used for the grant of a Hackney Carriage licence. The point of the legislation governing our trade, is that it restricts a certain section from doing certain things that the other section can do quite legally. It has to be noted that there is no legislation which says a Hackney carriage is restricted from taking a pre booked fare from a radio circuit. Therefore a Hackney carriage whethere it be in an unrestriced area or not, can legally enjoy the advantages that Radio circuit can sometimes bring. There are many Radio circuits throughout the country who enjoy a happy existance with both Private hire and Hackney cabs. Best wishes. JD |
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| Author: | Yorkie [ Fri Jul 23, 2004 2:45 pm ] |
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john. you suprise me. when Hackneys were first devised there was no private hire or thoughts about having them. its our job, and one historicaly we do well private hire have no job at all. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Fri Jul 23, 2004 7:11 pm ] |
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Yorkie wrote: its our job, and one historicaly we do well A matter of opinion. Yorkie wrote: private hire have no job at all.
PH do more A to B in this country than taxis.
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| Author: | Guest [ Sat Jul 24, 2004 2:08 am ] |
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Sussex wrote: Yorkie wrote: its our job, and one historicaly we do well A matter of opinion. Yorkie wrote: private hire have no job at all. PH do more A to B in this country than taxis. Sussex outside Mansfield and Gatehead, and perhaps Brighton where taxi drivers believe the world owe them a living, we have histopricaly done a good job not opinion at all but fact what do you mean a to b jobs? private hire are such [edited by admin] that you wanna leave them to join the more proffesional class if only you would just follow the rules you could have your plate now, because believe me limit by numbers are easily dealt with by people who wish to run section 10 services, when you have done them go on the rank
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| Author: | Guest [ Sat Jul 24, 2004 8:14 am ] |
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Anonymous wrote: private hire are such [edited by admin] that you wanna leave them to join the more proffesional class
i thnink the bloke has lost the plot. There are many possibly the majority of PH drivers earning very well thanks you. Mainly because we realise that customers come first. Not how many in the cab trade view them. The think they are doing the customers massive favours by simp0ly driving them home. Would I like to join the taxi trade no you can have it. I think the reason why some would like deregul;ation is to put idiots in there place and give customers a better service. I take it you know what those words mean. |
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| Author: | Guest [ Sat Jul 24, 2004 12:35 pm ] |
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Anonymous wrote: Anonymous wrote: private hire are such [edited by admin] that you wanna leave them to join the more proffesional class i thnink the bloke has lost the plot. There are many possibly the majority of PH drivers earning very well thanks you. Mainly because we realise that customers come first. Not how many in the cab trade view them. The think they are doing the customers massive favours by simp0ly driving them home. Would I like to join the taxi trade no you can have it. I think the reason why some would like deregul;ation is to put idiots in there place and give customers a better service. I take it you know what those words mean. yes I do very much so. I have also read your previous postings and they are not in line with what you have said here. the one about disabled passengers was the worst I have seen on the internet, |
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| Author: | Guest [ Sat Jul 24, 2004 2:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | H/Cs useless |
in the area i work as a P/H driver at 2am in a morning when customers cant get a H/C to take them home they try to turn to us because there isnt enough of "them" on the road, they are Qing at the rank trying to flag us down. because what few H/C that are about dont seem to want to pick them up, when i am sat waiting for my customers they come over complaining because they cant get a taxi, i tell them to complain to the council, customers appreciate us P/H drivers because they know they can count on us to take them home |
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| Author: | Guest [ Sat Jul 24, 2004 3:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: H/Cs useless |
Anonymous wrote: in the area i work as a P/H driver at 2am in a morning when customers cant get a H/C to take them home they try to turn to us because there isnt enough of "them" on the road, they are Qing at the rank trying to flag us down. because what few H/C that are about dont seem to want to pick them up, when i am sat waiting for my customers they come over complaining because they cant get a taxi, i tell them to complain to the council, customers appreciate us P/H drivers because they know they can count on us to take them home
if bullshit was snow there would be a blizard you only see the demand you satisfy and make unwarranted judgements on the rest all too common on here |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Sat Jul 24, 2004 6:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: H/Cs useless |
Anonymous wrote: customers appreciate us P/H drivers because they know they can count on us to take them home
I couldn't agree more. Thank goodness for the PH trade. We don't need quotas, we don't need meters to stop us overcharging customers, we don't need managed growth and we don't need bus men to lead us. All we need is a choice, nothing else.
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| Author: | Guest [ Sun Jul 25, 2004 3:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: H/Cs useless |
Sussex wrote: Anonymous wrote: customers appreciate us P/H drivers because they know they can count on us to take them home I couldn't agree more. Thank goodness for the PH trade. We don't need quotas, we don't need meters to stop us overcharging customers, we don't need managed growth and we don't need bus men to lead us. All we need is a choice, nothing else. I beg your pardon young man? is that a swipe at the T and G/ MY WORDS YOU ARE ASKING FOR TROUBLE RAOTFLMFHO |
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| Author: | John Davies [ Tue Jul 27, 2004 3:19 pm ] |
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Yorkie wrote: john.
you suprise me. when Hackneys were first devised there was no private hire or thoughts about having them. its our job, and one historicaly we do well private hire have no job at all. I was trying to answer the question which the Guest raised about one licence for all. The point I was trying to make was the fact that the majority of councils have no restrictions on Hackney carriage numbers whatsoever, therefore many drivers already have the option of "either or". Obviously there is no substance in the competition argument. I'm sure the guest would be the first to admit, that you can't advocate a level playing field in one respect and an uneven playing field in an other. To say "you want one license for all" is an equality issue but to then say "you don't want hackney carriages to compete for customers" is a complete reversal of the first sentiment implied. There was no intention on my part, to misrepresent the Hackney carriage with regard to radio work. I was trying to address the modern situation where in a great many areas for quite a long time, there have been dual radio circuits which use both Hackney carriage and Private hire vehicles. If deregulation ever came about here in Manchester, I can foresee many new hackney carriage drivers joining one of the many current private hire radio circuits. I think the basic argument put forward by the original poster, was done so to perhaps generate debate on an issue which is somewhat groundless. Never the less, he has every right to put forward an opinion, even though that opinion to some, may seem to be a "little off the wall". The only point of the argument that probably holds any water is the equality of licence issue. The other two points I am sorry to say in my opinion, are perhaps a little too far removed from reality to generate a constructive deabte. Best wishes John Davies |
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