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A friend recently purchased a vehicle from a recognised dealer and was given a repair warranty for twelve months parts and labour, yes you guessed it, the vehicle blew up and the warranty company are saying they will not honour it because of the high mileage, since buting the vehicle he has only done 5000 miles the seller have as good as told him to go away what is his best form of action.


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happy cabs wrote:
A friend recently purchased a vehicle from a recognised dealer and was given a repair warranty for twelve months parts and labour, yes you guessed it, the vehicle blew up and the warranty company are saying they will not honour it because of the high mileage, since buting the vehicle he has only done 5000 miles the seller have as good as told him to go away what is his best form of action.


How old was the vehicle when he bought it?

The OFT did an investigation into car warranties in 2006. You can download the pdf file from their website.

Here is what Susan Singleton wrote in "consumer law" about car Warranties in 2005.

Consumer Law Today

Rover and warranty issues

By Susan Singleton

This article examines some warranty issues arising from the demise of Rover. The DTI has issued some guidance on warranty claims arising from the Rover problems.

As most readers will know, a claim should first be raised with the dealer or supplier from whom a car was bought. There is a direct contract and the supplier is not in liquidation. The DTI also advises that whether there is a warranty or not consumers have their usual protection under the Sale of Goods Act 1979 that goods will be of satisfactory quality. The DTI says:

'If goods or services have been bought via a connected finance agreement, the finance company may also be jointly liable (with the supplier) under the contract of sale. Consumers may be able to look to the finance company to put matters right where the supplier has failed or is unable to do so. This might also apply where the provision of a warranty formed part of a transaction paid for or part paid for with a connected finance agreement.'

It is not yet clear how many such claims have been brought.
Warranty/guarantee

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1. Where a warranty has been provided by a manufacturer, or a third party provider, it is a separate agreement (aside from the agreement between retailer and consumer for the sale of goods) between the manufacturer or third party provider and the consumer. The warranty is usually only enforceable against the manufacturer or third party provider (even though in the case of new car warranties it is usually the retailer network which actually provides the work and parts, the manufacturer or third party provider pays for that work).
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2. The ability to enforce the agreement will depend on whether the party providing the warranty or guarantee is in a position to honour the agreement.
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3. In the event that the manufacturer is no longer in a position to honour the warranty agreement, the retailer is unlikely to be under any obligation to provide any service under that warranty (there would be little or no prospect of that work being paid for by the manufacturer). However, independent of any warranty, consumers still have their normal rights under sale of goods legislation to expect that any goods they buy (including cars) are of satisfactory quality. These rights are enforceable against the retailer, not the manufacturer (see below).
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4. It is important therefore to establish exactly who the warranty agreement is with. For example, second and third year warranties for cars are sometimes referred to as dealer warranties and it may be the case that the dealer or retailer, or a third party warranty provider, rather than the manufacturer, has obligations under those agreements.
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5. If a warranty has been provided by a company which goes into liquidation, and the warranty is not backed by independent insurance, and the company is not in a position to honour the warranty, any claim by the consumer will be considered an unsecured, non-preferential debt (the consumer would need to make their claim known to the liquidators and would join the queue of creditors).

Sale of goods law

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6. The law relating to the sale of goods is set out principally in the Sale of Goods Act 1979. The Act applies to all buyers, but consumers are entitled to a greater range of remedies. 'Consumers' are defined as people who do not deal or hold themselves out to be dealing in the course of a business.
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7. When goods are faulty and there is no separate warranty agreement or manufacturer's guarantee, buyers can generally only obtain a remedy against the retailer. Buyers may also have additional rights against a credit card company or finance house if the goods are purchased, or part purchased, by means of credit and cost more than £100 (see below).
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8. Buyers are entitled to goods of satisfactory quality, taking into account any description, the price and other relevant circumstances. If an item has a fault that is present at the time of the sale (which may be a 'latent' or 'inherent' fault), the consumer can take the issue up with the retailer once it is discovered.
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9. If a product that was not of satisfactory quality at the time of the sale is returned to the retailer, the buyer is entitled to a full refund (if it is within a reasonable time of the sale), or, if a 'reasonable time' has elapsed, to a reasonable amount of compensation. Any legal proceedings to enforce a claim must be started within six years of the date of sale.
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10. Alternatively, consumers can choose to request a repair or replacement (the retailer can decline either of these if he can show that they are disproportionately costly in comparison with the alternative). If neither repair nor replacement is realistically possible, consumers can request a partial refund.
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11. Generally, the consumer needs to demonstrate that the goods were not of satisfactory quality at the time of sale. This is the case if the consumer chooses to request an immediate refund or compensation. It is also the case for any product returned more than six months after the date of sale. There is one exception – this is where the consumer returns the goods in the first six months from the date of sale and requests a repair or replacement or a partial refund. In that case, the consumer does not have to prove that the goods were faulty at the time of sale. It is assumed that they were. If the retailer does not agree, it is for the retailer to prove that the goods were satisfactory at the time of sale.
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Finance agreements and credit
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12. Under s75 of the Consumer Credit Act 1974, a consumer may have the ability to enforce the contractual rights that he would have had against the supplier of goods or services, against the provider of the credit that financed the purchase of those goods and services.
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13. Essentially, where there has been a breach of contractual obligations (eg the goods are faulty or a service has not been provided) and where the supplier of the goods or services is not able to rectify the failure, the provider of the credit may be asked to assume joint liability with the supplier for the loss to the purchaser.
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14. There are conditions:
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– The transaction must be a debtor–creditor–supplier arrangement – ie the purchase must be financed by credit provided by a lender who has a relationship with the supplier. This will include where part of the purchase price has been paid by credit card.
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– The transaction must be for an amount between £100 and £30,000. But the amount of finance does not have to cover the full amount of the purchase price (eg the use of a credit card to pay a deposit).

Consumers who believe that they may have such a claim should contact their credit provider.
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You might wish to look up the Sale and Supply of Goods to Consumers Regulations of 2002 (SI 2002/3045) and the Supply of goods and services act 1982 and the Unfair Contract Terms Act 1977.

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In relation to the warranty guarantee, one assumes the contract had provided for making good any latent defect which appeared within the period of time specified in the contract and also any defect that arose within the time period of contract amounting to wear and tear in respect of the use the vehicle?

Is the The "WARRANTY GUARANTEE" worded on these lines?

(1) Unless specified in the contract, the vehicle supplied in execution of the purchase contract, shall be guaranteed for a period of x months or years from the time when the vehicle is accepted.

Any work or part thereof which becomes defective during this period by reason of faulty materials, workmanship, quality or design shall be replaced free of charge and the goods or part thereof so replaced shall be guaranteed for a further period of 12 months from the date of putting to work or acceptance as appropriate.

(2) Repairs to any defects in materials or workmanship shall not be carried out unless agreement has previously been obtained in writing from the Buyer. Failure to comply with this shall render the Supplier solely responsible for any and all claims which purport to be due to said defect as may be advised to the Supplier by the Buyer.

(3) If any latent defect be found or shall appear in the Work within a period of x years or such other time as may be specified in the contract from the date of acceptance of the work the defects shall be made good by the supplier at his own cost and risk.”
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 Post subject: Re: repair warranties
PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:21 pm 
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happy cabs wrote:
A friend recently purchased a vehicle from a recognised dealer and was given a repair warranty for twelve months parts and labour, yes you guessed it, the vehicle blew up and the warranty company are saying they will not honour it because of the high mileage, since buting the vehicle he has only done 5000 miles the seller have as good as told him to go away what is his best form of action.

Give Consumer Direct a ring on 08454 04 05 06.

They will contact the local trading standards for you, or your mate.

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