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Law Commission goes to Edinburgh, it looks like they have Scotland in their sights too
Room 1 13.45..

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

16.30 round table 5.......Tony Mullane

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

And RJ

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

Who's RJ?

Interesting get-together though, like a cross between the Coventry exhibition, the Law Commission's meetings with the trade and an academic seminar.

a who's who of who's who

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

Don't we all know the self serving sh*te that the city and central scum will come out with.

Nothing about drivers. Nothing about their rights to access to the tools of their trade. And nothing about how the industry exists on discrimination, all at the expense of the SNP sanctioned serfs.

Napier needs the city and central scum, and the city and central scum depend on Napier University to prop up their vested interest.

A band of brigands having an away day.

BTW. How much will the Murray and McVay scum be ripping off their patsy members for expenses for this little jolly?

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Skull, "You are a police inspector, aren't you?"
Cab Inspector Smith, "Yes."
Skull, "So, are you going to tell Mr Taylor what his rights are?"
Smith, "And ... What rights?"

Perhaps you should write to the Law Commission explaining the "Justice" of the situation. Use your own situation as evidence to prove your point.

You might also ask them to explain where you have it wrong.

Good idea.

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Skull, "You are a police inspector, aren't you?"
Cab Inspector Smith, "Yes."
Skull, "So, are you going to tell Mr Taylor what his rights are?"
Smith, "And ... What rights?"

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

capitalism is supposed to support enterprise in a free market. Ideas and effort, tied to investment are the key elements.

But what we have is a system of heavy regulation, where enterprise and choice are stifled.

None more so than the taxi trade.

Take private hire for instance. it exists primarily because the availability of taxis is restricted. So the demand not being met by the taxi trade is met by PH. PH exists because of the taxi trade not despite it.

Of course PH will claim they offer choice. But the taxi trade could offer the same choice.

PH will claim that they are cost competitive. But the taxi trade could be just as competitive.

PH will claim lots of things but nothing unique. Its sole unique selling point is that it is not the taxi trade.

We don't need PH. Customers don't need PH. Except of course for the fact that the trade wants them to exist. And is anti-competitive and restrictive to encourage them.

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Skull, "You are a police inspector, aren't you?"
Cab Inspector Smith, "Yes."
Skull, "So, are you going to tell Mr Taylor what his rights are?"
Smith, "And ... What rights?"

PH is a choice, it will be here for a very long time.

PH is only cost effective to those that dictate the costs......if you want a look at how PH (minicab) fares are determined you only need look on santander's website......the advice given is to check out taxi fares and discount at about 15%.......very scientific.

Liverpool and Wirral and Cardiff all had growing PH trades when deregulated.

As for the Law Commission, they've been paid a pretty decent fee....£375,000 to do a hatchet job of the taxi trade, what they call consultation is similar to talking to a wall.

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

Private hire companies need private hire drivers... and as everything in the Law Commission's suggestions are for the private hire companies... and that they are not interested in PH drivers or the hackney trade .... and that they are paying the bill just get guess what you going to end up with..... arguing with the private hire company will just see you gone.....

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

I've no doubt that PH was flourishing at any point of dereg. That's the problem, Pandora's box has already opened.

And with the advent of technology I've no doubt people will sit in the pub and fone a cab, hack or PH.

But the problem is that PH is inherently inefficient.

Jobs called 10-15 mins before due. Customer not turning up, particular from pub or club calls. Then on the to the same next time. And all while fares are being driven down in order to compete.

I've no doubt there are PH companies who make it work. Not my experience. It's a pell mell rush to the bottom of the pond, with the serf bearing the brunt. This mentality will always hold PH back. It will always be a fringe affair.

Some in the companies who are given special treatment will survive. But the vast hinterland will always be drivers struggling to make it work, ensconced only by their desperation, cannon fodder for those making the money.

What this means is that quality will never be there. If LAs had real customer interests at heart they would recognise the failings and promote a real taxi service, based on properly funded tariffs and real vehicle and driver controls.

Tell me I'm wrong.

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Skull, "You are a police inspector, aren't you?"
Cab Inspector Smith, "Yes."
Skull, "So, are you going to tell Mr Taylor what his rights are?"
Smith, "And ... What rights?"

I'd love to have a little go, but the majority of your words I agree with in respect of PH, and certainly in respect of PH operators with little regards towards the number of vehicles they have on their radio circuits and the amount of work they have for those vehicles.

Whether I like it or you like it, the words borrowed by Darryl Biggar as his own, were that those companies that were largest would invariably survive, the biggar a company is, the faster the response times, the more work it attracts from other companies and invariably it leads to it becoming bigger.

To paraphrase something Naomi Klein pointed out in her book 'the shock doctrine', Numerous ph businesses are similar to corporations such as 'Nike', who basically have a hollow shell of a business, no true costs such as employees....save for office staff, no costs in respect of cars......just a phone number and a dispatch system, advertising / marketing.

The success of the business is dependant upon the number of cars, giving a faster service than rival companies.....who it must not only attract custom from, it must attract vehicles and drivers from........as skull once said borrowing a phrase from a Scots socialist, 'rats feeding on rats'.

Eventually the company eats up all the competition, leaving no rivals, then we have a monopoly, but it isnt a monopoly in the sense that nobody can enter the industry, its just that those that do will end up very bankrupt......and before people say this wont happen, it has, when buses deregulated Mrs Thatcher had a really nice idea about all companies competing......how many bus companies do we currently have now? Four maybe??

We now have two here, which is about 3 less than we had 10 - 15 years ago and 1 more than last year - but it wont last, it cant because a little outfit from a village cannot compete with a multi national which owns train companies.

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin