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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:32 pm 
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. . . which should be incorporated into any new Cab Act.

From the Taxis Act (Northern Ireland) 2008;


Power to stop and examine licensed taxis

39. -- (1) An authorised officer or constable in uniform may stop and examine any licensed taxi.

(2) If an authorised officer or constable in uniform is satisfied that the taxi does not comply with regulations under section 20 for ensuring the safety of passengers in taxis, and that danger to the passengers in the taxi is likely to occur, the officer or constable may require --
(a) the passengers to leave the taxi; and
(b) suitable arrangements to be made by the driver of the taxi for the immediate conveyance of the passengers to the places to which they are entitled to travel in the taxi.

(3) If the driver of a taxi fails to make suitable arrangements for the immediate conveyance of passengers upon being required to do by an authorised officer or constable under subsection (2)(b) the driver is guilty of an offence.

(4) It is a defence in proceedings for an offence under this section for the driver to show that the driver exercised all due diligence to avoid committing such an offence.

Power to stop and examine motor vehicles suspected of illegal taxiing etc.

40. -- (1) Where an authorised officer or constable in uniform has reason to believe that any motor vehicle is a taxi being used in standing or plying for hire or reward or to carry passengers for hire or reward in contravention of any provision of or made under this Act or the 1981 Order, the officer or constable may stop and examine the vehicle.

(2) Where an authorised officer or constable has stopped any vehicle under subsection (1), the officer or constable may require --
(a) the driver of the vehicle; and
(b) any person who has made, is making or intends to make, use of that vehicle for the carriage of passengers for hire or reward,
to provide the officer or constable with all such information, and produce for the officer’s or constable’s inspection all such documents, as the officer or constable may reasonably require for any of the purposes mentioned in subsection (3).

(3) Those purposes are --
(a) obtaining the name and address of the owner of the vehicle, operator of the vehicle or driver of the vehicle, and
(b) ascertaining, in relation to any passengers who have been, or are being, or are to be carried on the vehicle for hire or reward, particulars of --
(i) the number of passengers;
(ii) the places from which and to which the passengers have been, are being, or are to be, carried;
(iii) the carriage of the passengers for hire or reward.

Power of seizure

41. -- (1) Subsection (2) applies if ---
(a) an authorised officer or constable in uniform ---
(i) exercises a power under section 40(1); or
(ii) attempts to exercise a power under section 40(1) and the vehicle does not stop or does not stop long enough for the officer or constable to make such lawful enquiries as the officer or constable considers appropriate; and
(b) the authorised officer or constable has reasonable grounds for believing that the vehicle is or was being used in contravention of section 12. [no taxi licence]

(2) Where this subsection applies, the authorised officer or constable may ---
(a) subject to subsection (3), seize and remove the vehicle (together with any equipment or other items found in it);
(b) enter, for the purpose of exercising a power falling within paragraph (a), any premises (other than premises occupied as a private dwelling) on which the officer or constable has reasonable grounds for believing the vehicle to be;
(c) use reasonable force, if necessary, in the exercise of any power conferred by paragraph (a) or (b).

(3) If the authorised officer or constable is unable to seize the vehicle immediately because it has not stopped or has been driven off, the officer or constable may seize it at any time within the period of 24 hours beginning with the time at which subsection (1) is first satisfied.

(4) The powers conferred on an authorised officer or a constable by this section are exercisable only at a time when regulations under section 42 are in operation.

(5) In this section --
(a) a reference to a vehicle does not include an invalid carriage;
(b) “equipment or other items found in a vehicle” means equipment or other items which the authorised officer or constable has reasonable grounds to believe may be required as evidence for the purpose of proceedings in respect of an offence under section 12;
(c) “private dwelling” does not include any garage or other structure occupied with the dwelling, or any land appurtenant to the dwelling house.

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which bearing in mind Northern Ireland will be a one tier system with effectively no private hire.......this has relevance where in this great new act that will see the entire country deregulate?

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which bearing in mind Northern Ireland will be a one tier system with effectively no private hire.......this has relevance where in this great new act that will see the entire country deregulate?

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If we do, it will see about 100,000 cabs in London and about 7,000 in Brum.

The streets will be gridlocked.

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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
If we do, it will see about 100,000 cabs in London and about 7,000 in Brum.

The streets will be gridlocked.

Not if the drivers have to take the London knowledge. :wink:

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Sussex wrote:
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If we do, it will see about 100,000 cabs in London and about 7,000 in Brum.

The streets will be gridlocked.

Not if the drivers have to take the London knowledge. :wink:

Did you not notice the word 'deregulatory' in the Law Commission's press release?

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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
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Not if the drivers have to take the London knowledge. :wink:

Did you not notice the word 'deregulatory' in the Law Commission's press release?

I do, but apart from that buffoon ex Berwick LO, and the PH barons, I don't see anyone supporting it.

And that includes the London PH spivs.

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Sussex wrote:
I do, but apart from that buffoon ex Berwick LO, and the PH barons, I don't see anyone supporting it.

And that includes the London PH spivs.



The MP's didn't seem very concerned about local knowledge tests.

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captain cab wrote:
The MP's didn't seem very concerned about local knowledge tests.

They will.

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With bigger licensing areas?

that'll be a neat trick.

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Sussex wrote:
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Not if the drivers have to take the London knowledge. :wink:

Did you not notice the word 'deregulatory' in the Law Commission's press release?

I do, but apart from that buffoon ex Berwick LO, and the PH barons, I don't see anyone supporting it.

And that includes the London PH spivs.

What is badly needed is a system, a fair system, of number regulation for both PH and HC.

And there is a huge problem with PH operators having a bottomless pit of drivers that at best can be described as under-employed whilst the operators are making £millions on the backs of drivers that MUST work through an operator.

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The best solution to control numbers is to ensure that any owner requiring drivers must pay them the min wage.
If that was brought in see how quickly the numbers would drop


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skippy41 wrote:
The best solution to control numbers is to ensure that any owner requiring drivers must pay them the min wage.
If that was brought in see how quickly the numbers would drop


not round here it wouldnt.

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captain cab wrote:
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The best solution to control numbers is to ensure that any owner requiring drivers must pay them the min wage.
If that was brought in see how quickly the numbers would drop

not round here it wouldnt.

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For once I have to agree with Mr Skippy41.

Only this once, mind you!!!

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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
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What is badly needed is a system, a fair system, of number regulation for both PH and HC.

Higher standards of vehicles and drivers.

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Sussex wrote:
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What is badly needed is a system, a fair system, of number regulation for both PH and HC.

Higher standards of vehicles and drivers.


So you would restrict via intellect and financial means :wink:

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