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In all the years I've spent working in this wonderful trade, and all the years I've spent on this taxi forum lark, not once has anyone queried why funeral cars aren't license. No moan, no groans, no calls, no nothing.

So why are the Law Commission added bureaucracy to an industry, that no-one wants, in an anti bureaucracy law review?

grandad wrote:

See my post above.

Then if they are doing that type of work they should be licensed, as per current legislation.

captain cab wrote:

grandad wrote:

See my post above.

Then if they are doing that type of work they should be licensed, as per current legislation.

Of course they should. The problem seems to be enforcement again. The operators just say that their vehicles are exempt and the public believe them. So the answer would be to make them all license as private hire. Problem solved.

Maybe they think you need to have an advance CRB check when dealing with the dead.!!

Theyed be better off staying Exempt and doing what theyre good at..Weddings and Funerals, Start to licence them and they'll have to make the vehicles work harder and longer and more varied runs such as Luxury airport transfers, which in turn means more competition for you guys and gals.

Sussex wrote:

In all the years I've spent working in this wonderful trade, and all the years I've spent on this taxi forum lark, not once has anyone queried why funeral cars aren't license. No moan, no groans, no calls, no nothing.

So why are the Law Commission adding bureaucracy to an industry, that no-one wants, in an anti bureaucracy law review?

See my post above.

My point isn't that funeral cars shouldn't be licensed if they do non-funeral work, but they shouldn't if the just do funeral work.

That said, I have never seen a black funeral (looking) vehicle doing anything other than funerals, and believe me I wouldn't miss it. :wink:

Won't that just be more rules that won't be enforced?

Author:	captain cab [ Fri May 11, 2012 12:03 am ]
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Weddings and funeral cars would no longer be exempted through primary legislation. The cash cow strikes back??????? If you consider the following; Provisional proposal 8 The concept of “in the course of a business of carrying passengers” should be used to limit the scope of taxi and private hire licensing so as to exclude genuine volunteers as well as activities where transport is ancillary to the overall service. (Page 168) So they want those nasty hearses doing maybe 2000 miles per year....carrying dead people......but aint particularly interested in ambulance cars? Damn those necrophiliacs

Author:	grandad [ Fri May 11, 2012 6:23 am ]
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One of the problems with the exemption is the increase in activities such as the school prom. On some dates it is almost impossible to book a licensed limousine so kids and parents will book the local wedding car provider to take them to the prom. Some are so desperate that they book the local funeral directors limousine for the occasion. Neither of them are licensed or insured to do this kind of work, but it happens, frequently.

Author:	Sussex [ Fri May 11, 2012 8:03 am ]
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In all the years I've spent working in this wonderful trade, and all the years I've spent on this taxi forum lark, not once has anyone queried why funeral cars aren't license. No moan, no groans, no calls, no nothing. So why are the Law Commission adding bureaucracy to an industry, that no-one wants, in an anti bureaucracy law review?

Author:	grandad [ Fri May 11, 2012 12:49 pm ]
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Sussex wrote: In all the years I've spent working in this wonderful trade, and all the years I've spent on this taxi forum lark, not once has anyone queried why funeral cars aren't license. No moan, no groans, no calls, no nothing. So why are the Law Commission added bureaucracy to an industry, that no-one wants, in an anti bureaucracy law review? See my post above.

Author:	captain cab [ Fri May 11, 2012 3:49 pm ]
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grandad wrote: See my post above. Then if they are doing that type of work they should be licensed, as per current legislation.

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Author:	grandad [ Fri May 11, 2012 4:46 pm ]
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captain cab wrote: grandad wrote: See my post above. Then if they are doing that type of work they should be licensed, as per current legislation. Of course they should. The problem seems to be enforcement again. The operators just say that their vehicles are exempt and the public believe them. So the answer would be to make them all license as private hire. Problem solved.

Author:	captain cab [ Fri May 11, 2012 4:50 pm ]
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grandad wrote: captain cab wrote: grandad wrote: See my post above. Then if they are doing that type of work they should be licensed, as per current legislation. Of course they should. The problem seems to be enforcement again. The operators just say that their vehicles are exempt and the public believe them. So the answer would be to make them all license as private hire. Problem solved. I disagree.

Author:	bloodnock [ Fri May 11, 2012 6:59 pm ]
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Theyed be better off staying Exempt and doing what theyre good at..Weddings and Funerals, Start to licence them and they'll have to make the vehicles work harder and longer and more varied runs such as Luxury airport transfers, which in turn means more competition for you guys and gals. Or might be a better option to have a Wedding and Funeral Vehicle Licence which can be run By anyone on just a car licence...then they might just stick to what theyre doing now..

Author:	MR T [ Fri May 11, 2012 7:02 pm ]
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Maybe they think you need to have an advance CRB check when dealing with the dead.!!

Author:	bloodnock [ Fri May 11, 2012 8:11 pm ]
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MR T wrote: Maybe they think you need to have an advance CRB check when dealing with the dead.!!

Author:	grandad [ Fri May 11, 2012 8:35 pm ]
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bloodnock wrote: Theyed be better off staying Exempt and doing what theyre good at..Weddings and Funerals, Start to licence them and they'll have to make the vehicles work harder and longer and more varied runs such as Luxury airport transfers, which in turn means more competition for you guys and gals. The problem is that some, not all, are already doing other work because no one is stopping them. We had a Rolls Royce owner here that had a sign on the side of the road advertising that he was available for weddings and SPECIAL OCCASIONS. One of our enforcement officers drove past this sign twice a day and didn't do anything about it until it was pointed out to her.

Author:	Sussex [ Fri May 11, 2012 9:18 pm ]
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grandad wrote: Sussex wrote: In all the years I've spent working in this wonderful trade, and all the years I've spent on this taxi forum lark, not once has anyone queried why funeral cars aren't license. No moan, no groans, no calls, no nothing. So why are the Law Commission adding bureaucracy to an industry, that no-one wants, in an anti bureaucracy law review? See my post above. My point isn't that funeral cars shouldn't be licensed if they do non-funeral work, but they shouldn't if the just do funeral work. That said, I have never seen a black funeral (looking) vehicle doing anything other than funerals, and believe me I wouldn't miss it.

Author:	grandad [ Sat May 12, 2012 7:14 am ]
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Sussex wrote: My point isn't that funeral cars shouldn't be licensed if they do non-funeral work, but they shouldn't if the just do funeral work. That said, I have never seen a black funeral (looking) vehicle doing anything other than funerals, and believe me I wouldn't miss it. I have seen loads of them on school proms. Not all of them are black either. A company in Nottingham has several stretched Rolls Royces in silver. Of course the main culprets of the doing proms without a license are the owners of the one Rolls Royce or Bentley that they use for social, domestic and pleasure with insurance for weddings. They just see proms as an extra bit of income that nobody will notice. Because no one is enforcing against these unlicensed activities the LC are looking at the option of having them all licensed because of the few.

Author:	gusmac [ Sat May 12, 2012 7:28 am ]
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Won't that just be more rules that won't be enforced?

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Author:	captain cab [ Sat May 12, 2012 8:35 am ]
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gusmac wrote: Won't that just be more rules that won't be enforced? Yep I was thinking that......or of course having licensing officers snoop after funeral directors at the expense of the license payer.....follow that hearse!!