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LC: Quality control basics
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Author:  Dusty Bin [ Sun May 13, 2012 5:27 am ]
Post subject:  LC: Quality control basics
So in a nutshell what they want to do is:

PHVs and PH drivers: Reduce the whole country to the lowest common denominator quality regulation currently in place.

Taxis and taxi drivers: Leave the current mishmash of standards largely unchanged, as long as they at least conform to the lowest common denominator PH standard.

Marvellous.
Author:  captain cab [ Sun May 13, 2012 9:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: LC: Quality control basics
Dusty Bin wrote:
So in a nutshell what they want to do is:

PHVs: Reduce the whole country to the lowest common denominator quality regulation currently in place.

Taxis: Leave the current mishmash of standards largely unchanged, as long as they at least conform to the lowest common denominator PHV standard.

Marvellous.



It was always about simplifying things :lol:
Author:  skippy41 [ Sun May 13, 2012 3:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: LC: Quality control basics
Image

Shall I get ready to remove the dust cover??? :D
Author:  Chris the Fish [ Sun May 13, 2012 4:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: LC: Quality control basics
Nice colour Skippy.
Which LA says Pink - or with the contract exemption in the balance are you thinking of joining "Pink Ladies"?
Author:  Sussex [ Sun May 13, 2012 7:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: LC: Quality control basics
Dusty Bin wrote:
PHVs: Reduce the whole country to the lowest common denominator quality regulation currently in place.

Not sure they say that, just that any PH standards will be universal.
Author:  edders23 [ Sun May 13, 2012 7:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: LC: Quality control basics
I think a far better move would be for Vosa to set and regulate taxi testing and open it up to any MOT station wanting to do taxi testing with clearly defined standards for appearance and quality alongside mechanical soundness

That could make the "market" for taxi testing more competitive and hopefully make it a level playing field
Author:  Dusty Bin [ Sun May 13, 2012 8:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: LC: Quality control basics
Sussex wrote:
Dusty Bin wrote:
PHVs: Reduce the whole country to the lowest common denominator quality regulation currently in place.

Not sure they say that, just that any PH standards will be universal.


It's basic 'fit and proper' as far as I can see - CRB and a medical.

They make the point that as a consequence taxi standards will never be below PH standards in another area, so no need for a Berwick.

There would be no point getting a taxi licence in an easy area and using it in Brighton (say) to get round tough PH standards, because there wouldn't be tough PH standards, just the basic fit and proper.
Author:  Sussex [ Sun May 13, 2012 10:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: LC: Quality control basics
Dusty Bin wrote:
Sussex wrote:
Dusty Bin wrote:
PHVs: Reduce the whole country to the lowest common denominator quality regulation currently in place.

Not sure they say that, just that any PH standards will be universal.


It's basic 'fit and proper' as far as I can see - CRB and a medical.

For drivers yes, when you said quality controls I assumed vehicles.

As far as I can see there isn't a lack of suitable drivers willing to join the 'ranks' of the PH trade, the problem seems to be retention.

Will allowing next to no standards improve things? I very much doubt it. :sad:

Is it asking too much for new entrants to be able to converse in English, to be able to know where the f*** they are going (without sat nav) and to be able to drive in a professional manner?

According to the Law Commission, it is. :sad:
Author:  Dusty Bin [ Sun May 13, 2012 10:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: LC: Quality control basics
Indeed, and I was talking about quality control generally - ie vehicles and drivers - rather than specifically.

So it seems they'll still allow knowledge tests for taxis, driving tests for taxis, age rules for taxis, colour codes for taxis etc etc.

But just the basics for PH.

Indeed if you look back at the press release and our PM exchange the other night then that was precisely what I was getting at.

Actually reading the documents just confirms that. :-|
Author:  MR T [ Mon May 14, 2012 4:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: LC: Quality control basics
This has been interpreted by the courts to mean that, in England and Wales (outside
London), leisure use is not allowed, creating the concept of “once a taxi, always a
taxi”.7 This means that family members, for example, cannot in theory drive the
vehicle unless they hold a hackney carriage licence. It also means that anyone
wanting to work in the hackney trade has to buy a vehicle dedicated to the job rather
than using their existing car.
3.10 Transport for London, however, takes the view that London taxis and private hire
vehicles can be driven by unlicensed drivers.8
Author:  Sussex [ Mon May 14, 2012 8:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: LC: Quality control basics
Sussex wrote:
As far as I can see there isn't a lack of suitable drivers willing to join the 'ranks' of the PH trade, the problem seems to be retention.

Will allowing next to no standards improve things? I very much doubt it. :sad:

Is it asking too much for new entrants to be able to converse in English, to be able to know where the f*** they are going (without sat nav) and to be able to drive in a professional manner?

On top of the above a driver need to have a reasonable level of literacy, as they will need to be able to read a map or customer directions, as the LC are proposing to bin off the PH knowledge. :sad:
Author:  Doom [ Tue May 15, 2012 12:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: LC: Quality control basics
Well, in prep for 2013 I've been out and bought my next cab

Image


Lick of paint and some new wheels and it's gonna be a knicker's dropper I can tell ya.
Author:  Dusty Bin [ Tue May 15, 2012 12:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: LC: Quality control basics
Law Commission wrote:
It also means that anyone wanting to work in the hackney trade has to buy a vehicle dedicated to the job rather than using their existing car.


Bollox.
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