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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:53 pm 
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Apparently the LC will be rolling in to town for a meeting with the council and the taxi association.

I wonder what will be on the agenda?


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:19 am 
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I wonder what will be on the agenda?

Maybe they are coming to tell you what a wonderful job you are doing and therefore are proposing no change to any act.

But then again. :D

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:42 am 
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Of course they can put what they like on the agenda, but the trade in the 25% of councils that still restrict will want to talk about just the one issue.

And it won't be the price of bread.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:49 pm 
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Maybe the following will be on the agenda:

The rights of the serfs

How the PH barons have saturated the market

How the PH barons use tricks and cheats to circumvent existing laws

How deregulation, quantity controls have failed up and down the country

Gosh if Dusty was here, he'd know that's for sure.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:16 pm 
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187ums wrote:
The rights of the serfs

How the PH barons have saturated the market

How the PH barons use tricks and cheats to circumvent existing laws

Who are the serfs, the taxi jockies paying over the top for the right to drive someone else's taxi? Or the PH owner/drivers not able to license a taxi through restrictions?

As for the PH barons, well those chaps love the restricted taxi market, as they know they hold the cards in relation to PH owner/drivers.

However the LC plans (as of their report date) liberates said serfs, both taxi and PH versions. =D>

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:18 pm 
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187ums wrote:
How deregulation, quantity controls have failed up and down the country

No-one is suggesting deregulation, as per Eire, and I'm not sure your point about quantity controls failing is exactly what you mean.

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Quality is what I meant, wherever they've put in so called quality controls i.e. a new WAV it hasn't worked either, nor is the point about higher standards.

Too be honest you do have some fair points, but why are they having meetings again if they were so sure of the path they were following?


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:11 pm 
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187ums wrote:
Too be honest you do have some fair points, but why are they having meetings again if they were so sure of the path they were following?

An interesting question.

The LC alluded to these meetings in the e-mail they sent Alex, and in that e-mail they say it's the first time they have undertaken this approach.

I have my own views, and hopefully I'm right. :wink:

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How deregulation, quantity controls have failed up and down the country

No-one is suggesting deregulation, as per Eire, and I'm not sure your point about quantity controls failing is exactly what you mean.


So if it's not deregulation, as per Eire, what is it? Restricted deregulation :?

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So if it's not deregulation, as per Eire, what is it? Restricted deregulation :?

The word deregulation has been proved to be a misledaing one, which does beg the question as to why people use it.

However I will use it to explain what is being proposed by the LC.

It's the deregulation of restrictions on taxi numbers, not a deregulation on taxi driver/vehicle conditions.

Can't really believe you didn't know that. :-k

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Sussex wrote:

It's the deregulation of restrictions on taxi numbers, not a deregulation on taxi driver/vehicle conditions.

Can't really believe you didn't know that. :-k



Their plans of national minimum standards for PH is effectively one of deregulation though :wink:

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Their plans of national minimum standards for PH is effectively one of deregulation though :wink:

We await said standard.

I suspect the basic standard might actually improve some of the sh** that's currently working.

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Sussex wrote:
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Their plans of national minimum standards for PH is effectively one of deregulation though :wink:

We await said standard.

I suspect the basic standard might actually improve some of the sh** that's currently working.



That would be a really neat trick considering we license vintage vehicles for specialist hirings - and their plans to license wedding cars.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:39 am 
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toots wrote:
So if it's not deregulation, as per Eire, what is it? Restricted deregulation :?

The word deregulation has been proved to be a misledaing one, which does beg the question as to why people use it.

However I will use it to explain what is being proposed by the LC.

It's the deregulation of restrictions on taxi numbers, not a deregulation on taxi driver/vehicle conditions.

Can't really believe you didn't know that. :-k


Whether you call it 'deregulation of restriction' or whether you call it 'de-restriction' it's effects are the same. There was very little by way of driver standards discussed by the LC so it's not likely that much will come from that idea. If driver standards were high then you wouldn't have to worry about restricting vehicle licences. The idea of deregulation is to make things easier not more difficult, it is to ensure that the 'free market' is free of restriction to trade. That to me would mean no borders, basic standards and a general free for all so long as the vehicle has passed it's Mot and the driver can drive using a satnav. Operators will only need a license to operate, which will be without borders. In general a driver won't need to know where they're going because a satnav will take them there, it's not very professional but it's free of restriction. I think you will find that the LC remit was to deregulate the conditions for both drivers and vehicles, that includes any restriction of numbers.

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Your spin is very scary ms toots


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