Taxi Driver Online

UK cab trade debate and advice
It is currently Fri Mar 29, 2024 5:56 am

All times are UTC [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 209 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 10, 11, 12, 13, 14
Author Message
PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:05 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:25 pm
Posts: 37029
Location: Wayneistan
I think I found the toadiest introduction in response to the LC enquiry;

Before responding to the taxi consultation paper, we would like to congratulate its authors for producing such a comprehensive and meticulous evaluation of our industry’s current state of play. For a trade unceasingly distorted by political and commercial agendas, Consultation Paper No. 203 provides a rare and refreshing critique, scrutinising not only the suppliers, but the consumers our industry exists to serve.

Image

_________________
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:18 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:25 pm
Posts: 37029
Location: Wayneistan
We do not propose to introduce a “return to area” requirement in respect of out of-area drop offs. (Page 199)

STRONGLY AGREE

We think it despicable that any right minded person would support such shameful, protectionist and environmental suicide as has been proposed by Unite the Union by way of a ‘return to area’ proposal. It is acutely elementary that such measures would increase carbon emissions, promote higher fares, reduce consumer choice, lengthen customer waiting times and hamstring the efficient operation of the most popular taxi services.

_________________
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 12:31 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Sep 29, 2012 5:02 pm
Posts: 605
captain cab wrote:
We do not propose to introduce a “return to area” requirement in respect of out of-area drop offs. (Page 199)

STRONGLY AGREE

We think it despicable that any right minded person would support such shameful, protectionist and environmental suicide as has been proposed by Unite the Union by way of a ‘return to area’ proposal. It is acutely elementary that such measures would increase carbon emissions, promote higher fares, reduce consumer choice, lengthen customer waiting times and hamstring the efficient operation of the most popular taxi services.



they forget to add it also good for drive who break rule and make it that car become country wide if it please so it cherry pick work while licence in one horse town


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2013 7:46 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 03, 2003 7:30 pm
Posts: 53921
Location: 1066 Country
Tico wrote:
they forget to add it also good for drive who break rule and make it that car become country wide if it please so it cherry pick work while licence in one horse town

You're not related to old Charlie boy are you?

_________________
IDFIMH


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 8:19 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:11 pm
Posts: 8119
Location: A Villa in Aston NO MORE!
Sussex wrote:
Tico wrote:
they forget to add it also good for drive who break rule and make it that car become country wide if it please so it cherry pick work while licence in one horse town

You're not related to old Charlie boy are you?

Cousins, third removed - probably.

_________________
Kind regards,

Brummie Cabbie.

Type a message, post your news,
Disagree with other members' views;
But please, do have some decorum,
When debating on the TDO Forum.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 12:51 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Sep 29, 2012 5:02 pm
Posts: 605
Brummie Cabbie wrote:
Sussex wrote:
Tico wrote:
they forget to add it also good for drive who break rule and make it that car become country wide if it please so it cherry pick work while licence in one horse town

You're not related to old Charlie boy are you?

Cousins, third removed - probably.



no i no british i be here long time but still strugle with words when writing them but i can do telemetry on F1 car how about you too


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 10:35 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:25 pm
Posts: 37029
Location: Wayneistan
Councils could be handed greater powers to tackle 'rogue' taxi and private hire vehicle operators


LGA media release 4 May 2013

‘Rogue' taxi and private hire operators who endanger passenger safety could face a crackdown after council leaders urged the Government to hand them tougher powers.

New rules, proposed by the Law Commission and backed by councils, could see local authorities handed greater powers to stop licensed vehicles, impound cars, impose fixed penalty schemes and further tackle touting from out-of-area vehicles.

It follows recommendations from the Local Government Association (LGA), which represents more than 370 councils in England and Wales, on how the current outdated laws should be reformed.

Some of the existing licensing laws date back to 1831 and still refer to horse-drawn carriages, leaving both operators and councils questioning their relevance to modern passenger transport systems.

The Department for Transport asked the Law Commission to review the law relating to the regulation of taxis and private hire vehicles, with a view to its modernisation and simplification.

After a consultation last year, it has published its key decisions in an interim statement and has changed its position to reflect many of the key points made by the LGA.

In a significant step on the journey to increasing protection for residents, key recommendations include:

  • •Councils retaining the power to manage the number of taxis licensed and operating in their area.
  • •Local authorities handed more powers to intervene when they have concerns about a vehicle or a driver.
  • •Allowing councils to introduce local safety measures above and beyond minimum national standards.
  • •Bringing niche vehicles, such as pedicabs and limousines, into the licensing system – allowing councils to ensure that residents can be confident of any vehicles that carry them as passengers.
  • •Retaining a two-tier system between taxis and private hire vehicles – providing users with consumer choices that balance fairness of price with access to quality services.

Cllr Mehboob Khan, Chairman of the LGA's Safer and Stronger Communities Board, said:

"This is an important development for councils and their residents and we are pleased that the Law Commission has taken our views and concerns on board when drafting these significant recommendations.

"It is vital that councils retain the flexibility needed to innovate, react to their individual local needs and ensure the safety of all passengers.

"Taxis and private hire vehicles are an essential means of transport for communities and especially older or disabled people and all passengers have the right to expect the vehicle and its driver to meet certain standards of safety.

"If agreed, these tougher new powers would allow councils to protect people from rogue or irresponsible drivers without having to go through an outdated process which could see passengers put at risk before it is completed.

"Our experience has shown us time and again that it is impossible to establish a national set of safety guidelines that is both flexible and responsive enough to react rapidly to changes in technology, passenger requirements or distinctive local conditions.

"That is why we have always supported introducing a national minimum safety standard that can be improved or tailored by councils and it is pleasing the Law Commission has also recognised that key fact.

"The LGA will be lobbying hard for the Department for Transport to accept these proposals when they are finally presented to ministers."

Case studies

• Bristol City Council and police launched a crackdown on taxi licensing last month with 62 vehicles checked. Ten were not legally licensed and the drivers were suspended with immediate effect.

• 17 vehicles were stopped during a joint operation by Bradford Council and police in March with five issued fines for offences, one seized for having no insurance and seven drivers suspended.

• Ribble Borough Council launched a crackdown on rogue taxis operating without a licence following concerns that some are crossing into the borough and touting for trade.

• Wolverhampton City Council licensing officers are working alongside police to crackdown on unlicensed taxi operators. An operation on 2 April resulted in two people being reported for touting.

Notes to editors

1.The Law Commission plans to publish a final report with recommendations and a draft Bill for ministers to consider by late 2013. The interim statement can be found here: http://lawcommission.justice.gov.uk/are ... rvices.htm

2. The Law Commission is the statutory independent body created by the Law Commissions Act 1965 to keep the law under review and to recommend reform where it is needed.

3. The Law Commission held a four-month consultation into taxi and private hire vehicle licensing regulations last May, which attracted more than 3,000 responses.

4. More than two-thirds of the Commission's law reform recommendations have been implemented, and a number await the Government's decision or Parliamentary time.

ends

_________________
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 11:11 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Sep 29, 2012 5:02 pm
Posts: 605
about time if you ask me cab service should be proper pro not some rent a shack with a thief driving


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2013 11:36 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:25 pm
Posts: 37029
Location: Wayneistan
Image

_________________
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 1:23 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:22 pm
Posts: 14151
Location: Wirral
captain cab wrote:
Councils could be handed greater powers to tackle 'rogue' taxi and private hire vehicle operators


LGA media release 4 May 2013

‘Rogue' taxi and private hire operators who endanger passenger safety could face a crackdown after council leaders urged the Government to hand them tougher powers.

New rules, proposed by the Law Commission and backed by councils, could see local authorities handed greater powers to stop licensed vehicles, impound cars, impose fixed penalty schemes and further tackle touting from out-of-area vehicles.

It follows recommendations from the Local Government Association (LGA), which represents more than 370 councils in England and Wales, on how the current outdated laws should be reformed.

Some of the existing licensing laws date back to 1831 and still refer to horse-drawn carriages, leaving both operators and councils questioning their relevance to modern passenger transport systems.

The Department for Transport asked the Law Commission to review the law relating to the regulation of taxis and private hire vehicles, with a view to its modernisation and simplification.

After a consultation last year, it has published its key decisions in an interim statement and has changed its position to reflect many of the key points made by the LGA.

In a significant step on the journey to increasing protection for residents, key recommendations include:

  • •Councils retaining the power to manage the number of taxis licensed and operating in their area.
  • •Local authorities handed more powers to intervene when they have concerns about a vehicle or a driver.
  • •Allowing councils to introduce local safety measures above and beyond minimum national standards.
  • •Bringing niche vehicles, such as pedicabs and limousines, into the licensing system – allowing councils to ensure that residents can be confident of any vehicles that carry them as passengers.
  • •Retaining a two-tier system between taxis and private hire vehicles – providing users with consumer choices that balance fairness of price with access to quality services.

Cllr Mehboob Khan, Chairman of the LGA's Safer and Stronger Communities Board, said:

"This is an important development for councils and their residents and we are pleased that the Law Commission has taken our views and concerns on board when drafting these significant recommendations.

"It is vital that councils retain the flexibility needed to innovate, react to their individual local needs and ensure the safety of all passengers.

"Taxis and private hire vehicles are an essential means of transport for communities and especially older or disabled people and all passengers have the right to expect the vehicle and its driver to meet certain standards of safety.

"If agreed, these tougher new powers would allow councils to protect people from rogue or irresponsible drivers without having to go through an outdated process which could see passengers put at risk before it is completed.

"Our experience has shown us time and again that it is impossible to establish a national set of safety guidelines that is both flexible and responsive enough to react rapidly to changes in technology, passenger requirements or distinctive local conditions.

"That is why we have always supported introducing a national minimum safety standard that can be improved or tailored by councils and it is pleasing the Law Commission has also recognised that key fact.

"The LGA will be lobbying hard for the Department for Transport to accept these proposals when they are finally presented to ministers."

Case studies

• Bristol City Council and police launched a crackdown on taxi licensing last month with 62 vehicles checked. Ten were not legally licensed and the drivers were suspended with immediate effect.

• 17 vehicles were stopped during a joint operation by Bradford Council and police in March with five issued fines for offences, one seized for having no insurance and seven drivers suspended.

• Ribble Borough Council launched a crackdown on rogue taxis operating without a licence following concerns that some are crossing into the borough and touting for trade.

• Wolverhampton City Council licensing officers are working alongside police to crackdown on unlicensed taxi operators. An operation on 2 April resulted in two people being reported for touting.

Notes to editors

1.The Law Commission plans to publish a final report with recommendations and a draft Bill for ministers to consider by late 2013. The interim statement can be found here: http://lawcommission.justice.gov.uk/are ... rvices.htm

2. The Law Commission is the statutory independent body created by the Law Commissions Act 1965 to keep the law under review and to recommend reform where it is needed.

3. The Law Commission held a four-month consultation into taxi and private hire vehicle licensing regulations last May, which attracted more than 3,000 responses.

4. More than two-thirds of the Commission's law reform recommendations have been implemented, and a number await the Government's decision or Parliamentary time.

ends


It all reads very well in theory but it will do little if anything to kerb the abuse, often from private hire, of the system. There are already laws in place for unsafe vehicles, uninsured vehicles, untaxed vehicles etc etc. Niche vehicles could simply be licenced within the taxi regime with a simple adjustment to the laws. It seems to me that LOs are looking to become more responsible than they already are (which I do believe will entitle them to an increased pay packet). I have said before and I will continue to say that this is an exercise in restricting taxis and freeing up private hire to legally abuse current systems. Taxis won't be able to cross borders but private hire won't have any as such. If you look at the recent news of the purchase of Addison Lee, by a large US hedge fund company, one has to wonder how much of their considerable profit will they actually pay tax on. This is important as they will have all the benefits provided to allow them to make a profit but none of the responsibility of paying towards it. Operator costs are minuscule in most cases compared to driver and vehicle licenses, with again little or no responsibility faced by the operator. As has been said before 'it'll all end in tears'.

_________________
Note to self: Just because it pops into my head does NOT mean it should come out of my mouth!!


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 10:14 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Sep 29, 2012 5:02 pm
Posts: 605
toot

once the american firm expand all big city taxi firm will die a death it nearly happen years ago with a firm called Intercar and the only way to help avoid them taking over is to dud the hell out of them so they are reduced in number as they are sitting waiting for mt nobody all day while you continue to serve public


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 9:28 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:17 pm
Posts: 2609
I do hope these new powers will extend to investigating the providers and operators of hospital transport who are illegally operating for commercial gain/hire and reward/economic activity. they are a bigger threat than any illegal taxi.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 4:01 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu May 03, 2007 8:15 pm
Posts: 9163
roythebus wrote:
I do hope these new powers will extend to investigating the providers and operators of hospital transport who are illegally operating for commercial gain/hire and reward/economic activity. they are a bigger threat than any illegal taxi.


I shouldn't hold your breath waiting for that to happen. :roll:


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 12:42 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:06 pm
Posts: 24116
Location: Twixt Heaven and Hell, but nearest Hell
roythebus wrote:
I do hope these new powers will extend to investigating the providers and operators of hospital transport who are illegally operating for commercial gain/hire and reward/economic activity. they are a bigger threat than any illegal taxi.


Ambulance authorities will continue with contracted (but not plated) and non-contracted (volunteer) cars on call...

_________________
Of all the things ive lost, i miss my mind the most


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 209 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 10, 11, 12, 13, 14

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 44 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group