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Author:  captain cab [ Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Taxi abuse fears lead to call for red tape rethink
Taxi abuse fears lead to call for red tape rethink


FEARS of sexual abuse by Yorkshire taxi drivers should halt Government plans to cut red tape in the industry, an MP has said.

Julian Smith has urged the Government to halt legislation which would make it easier for unchecked drivers to pick up fares amid concerns the abuse seen in Rotherham maybe more widespread than initially thought.

Mr Smith told MPs: “I urge the Government to look one more time at the provisions in the Deregulation Bill, which is currently before the Lords. In northern towns such as Skipton, taxis have been a key part of the problem of child sexual exploitation.”

Concerns were raised by the Skipton and Ripon MP after he carried out his won research into abuse in Yorkshire following the jay report. Mr Smith said he did not uncover any specific allegations but came across many generalised abuse issues, including licensing concerns regarding the taxi industry.

“I do not want to cause alarm, but it is a consideration we have to bear in mind,” Mr Smith later added.

Labour has seized on the comment as evidence that a shake up in how taxis are licensed runs the risk of making some services less safe.

Mary Creagh, Labour’s Shadow Transport Secretary, speaking ahead of a crucial House of Lords vote on taxi deregulation as part of the Deregulation Bill, said:

“The Government’s disastrous proposals to deregulate taxis risk putting women in danger.

“Despite months of warnings from Labour and safety campaigners Ministers are pressing ahead with their risky plans to loosen taxi licensing and allow cabs to work out of area.

“Ministers need urgently to review these measures and we repeat our offer to work with them to get the rogues off the road.”

Transport minister Robert Goodwill said: “It is up to licensing authorities to carry out all the necessary checks.”

source: http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/mai ... -1-6928186
Author:  captain cab [ Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Taxi abuse fears lead to call for red tape rethink
Quote:
Mary Creagh, Labour’s Shadow Transport Secretary, speaking ahead of a crucial House of Lords vote on taxi deregulation as part of the Deregulation Bill, said:

“The Government’s disastrous proposals to deregulate taxis risk putting women in danger.

“Despite months of warnings from Labour and safety campaigners Ministers are pressing ahead with their risky plans to loosen taxi licensing and allow cabs to work out of area.

“Ministers need urgently to review these measures and we repeat our offer to work with them to get the rogues off the road.”


Yeah, don't you just love Labour - the deregulation bill was so important they couldn't be bothered to attend the NTA conference.

looks like she was in the north on Monday;

http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/busi ... -1-6919985

and Newcastle on Tuesday;

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor ... th-8016198
Author:  grandad [ Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Taxi abuse fears lead to call for red tape rethink
The right Honorable MP does not seem to have a problem with a private hire operator passing work to an out of town Hackney.
The right Honorable MP does not seem to have a problem with a Hackney passing work to an out of town Hackney.
The right Honorable MP does not seem to have a problem with a Hackney passing work to an out of town Private Hire Operator.
All of which are legal and all no different to what is being proposed.
He only has a problem with a Private Hire operator passing work to an out of town Private Hire operator.
Author:  MR T [ Sat Nov 01, 2014 12:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Taxi abuse fears lead to call for red tape rethink
grandad wrote:
The right Honorable MP does not seem to have a problem with a private hire operator passing work to an out of town Hackney.
The right Honorable MP does not seem to have a problem with a Hackney passing work to an out of town Hackney.
The right Honorable MP does not seem to have a problem with a Hackney passing work to an out of town Private Hire Operator.
All of which are legal and all no different to what is being proposed.
He only has a problem with a Private Hire operator passing work to an out of town Private Hire operator.

What happens when a big p/h/op opens up in your area using another p/h co that he has registered,Which is simply a booking transfer office ...not manned..
Author:  grandad [ Sat Nov 01, 2014 1:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Taxi abuse fears lead to call for red tape rethink
MR T wrote:
grandad wrote:
The right Honorable MP does not seem to have a problem with a private hire operator passing work to an out of town Hackney.
The right Honorable MP does not seem to have a problem with a Hackney passing work to an out of town Hackney.
The right Honorable MP does not seem to have a problem with a Hackney passing work to an out of town Private Hire Operator.
All of which are legal and all no different to what is being proposed.
He only has a problem with a Private Hire operator passing work to an out of town Private Hire operator.

What happens when a big p/h/op opens up in your area using another p/h co that he has registered,Which is simply a booking transfer office ...not manned..

We already have one.
Author:  MR T [ Sat Nov 01, 2014 2:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Taxi abuse fears lead to call for red tape rethink
grandad wrote:
MR T wrote:
grandad wrote:
The right Honorable MP does not seem to have a problem with a private hire operator passing work to an out of town Hackney.
The right Honorable MP does not seem to have a problem with a Hackney passing work to an out of town Hackney.
The right Honorable MP does not seem to have a problem with a Hackney passing work to an out of town Private Hire Operator.
All of which are legal and all no different to what is being proposed.
He only has a problem with a Private Hire operator passing work to an out of town Private Hire operator.

What happens when a big p/h/op opens up in your area using another p/h co that he has registered,Which is simply a booking transfer office ...not manned..

We already have one.

Now you will have more.
Author:  MR T [ Sat Nov 01, 2014 2:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Taxi abuse fears lead to call for red tape rethink
grandad wrote:
MR T wrote:
grandad wrote:
The right Honorable MP does not seem to have a problem with a private hire operator passing work to an out of town Hackney.
The right Honorable MP does not seem to have a problem with a Hackney passing work to an out of town Hackney.
The right Honorable MP does not seem to have a problem with a Hackney passing work to an out of town Private Hire Operator.
All of which are legal and all no different to what is being proposed.
He only has a problem with a Private Hire operator passing work to an out of town Private Hire operator.

What happens when a big p/h/op opens up in your area using another p/h co that he has registered,Which is simply a booking transfer office ...not manned..

We already have one.

We don't in Sefton and Liverpool because now it's illegal .
Author:  captain cab [ Sat Nov 01, 2014 5:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Taxi abuse fears lead to call for red tape rethink
MR T wrote:
We don't in Sefton and Liverpool because now it's illegal .


yeah but that don't concern grandad, so he aint bothered, but those pesky licensing officers not accepting his driver not producing a DBS,

other drivers selling food,

other companies retaining drivers with contracts,

his drivers being pulled by the police, his drivers refusing fares,

his licensing fees,

his local lawbreaker from rutland who gets under his skin,

his vehicle plate working whilst expired......dunno about you, but there's a pattern :roll: :roll: :roll:
Author:  grandad [ Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Taxi abuse fears lead to call for red tape rethink
captain cab wrote:
MR T wrote:
We don't in Sefton and Liverpool because now it's illegal .


yeah but that don't concern grandad, so he aint bothered, but those pesky licensing officers not accepting his driver not producing a DBS,

other drivers selling food,

other companies retaining drivers with contracts,

his drivers being pulled by the police, his drivers refusing fares,

his licensing fees,

his local lawbreaker from rutland who gets under his skin,

his vehicle plate working whilst expired......dunno about you, but there's a pattern :roll: :roll: :roll:

No answer to the real issue then?
Author:  MR T [ Sat Nov 01, 2014 11:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Taxi abuse fears lead to call for red tape rethink
captain cab wrote:
MR T wrote:
We don't in Sefton and Liverpool because now it's illegal .


yeah but that don't concern grandad, so he aint bothered, but those pesky licensing officers not accepting his driver not producing a DBS,

other drivers selling food,

other companies retaining drivers with contracts,

his drivers being pulled by the police, his drivers refusing fares,

his licensing fees,

his local lawbreaker from rutland who gets under his skin,

his vehicle plate working whilst expired......dunno about you, but there's a pattern :roll: :roll: :roll:

It just seems to me ..He is careful not to upset the big boys....that would never do..
Author:  toots [ Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Taxi abuse fears lead to call for red tape rethink
grandad wrote:
captain cab wrote:
MR T wrote:
We don't in Sefton and Liverpool because now it's illegal .


yeah but that don't concern grandad, so he aint bothered, but those pesky licensing officers not accepting his driver not producing a DBS,

other drivers selling food,

other companies retaining drivers with contracts,

his drivers being pulled by the police, his drivers refusing fares,

his licensing fees,

his local lawbreaker from rutland who gets under his skin,

his vehicle plate working whilst expired......dunno about you, but there's a pattern :roll: :roll: :roll:

No answer to the real issue then?


What real issue? According to you there isn't one :?
Author:  grandad [ Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Taxi abuse fears lead to call for red tape rethink
toots wrote:
grandad wrote:
No answer to the real issue then?


What real issue? According to you there isn't one :?

The real issue is that with 3 already legal ways for licensed vehicles and drivers to be used across borders, why is this last one so much more "dangerous"?
Author:  roythebus [ Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Taxi abuse fears lead to call for red tape rethink
Surely with uniform licencing regulations across the country and the ability of any area's LO's to check any vehicles, there shouldn't be any problems?
Author:  grandad [ Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Taxi abuse fears lead to call for red tape rethink
roythebus wrote:
Surely with uniform licencing regulations across the country and the ability of any area's LO's to check any vehicles, there shouldn't be any problems?

I would totally agree with that Roy. It is a pity that the ability for any area's LO's to check any vehicles was not part of the bill.
Author:  toots [ Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Taxi abuse fears lead to call for red tape rethink
grandad wrote:
toots wrote:
grandad wrote:
No answer to the real issue then?


What real issue? According to you there isn't one :?

The real issue is that with 3 already legal ways for licensed vehicles and drivers to be used across borders, why is this last one so much more "dangerous"?


Perhaps the question should be why are there already 3 different legal ways for cross border and what are the safety implications of that?
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