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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 6:07 pm 
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skippy41 wrote:
Could the council be showing discrimination under the DDA?????????
One company here picks up a child in a wheelchair they go less than half a mile from one side of the housing scheme to the other



Discrimination would only be an issue if the Mother offered to pay a Taxi company and they refused the Jobs purely on the Grounds that didn't want it because it was a Wheelchair user. If they were busy or didn't have a suitable vehicle then that's different.

It would not be discrimination if the run didn't attain council guidelines on Home to School Transport.

Indeed it may discriminate against the able bodied pupils who don't qualify on distance grounds if others received such short Journey's because they had a disability whilst having other methods such as being pushed to School by a parent.

If you can't manage so many kids alone then don't have so many...especially if you do not have the means to look after them and then expect the state to do it all for nowt.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:44 pm 
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So what would constitute a genuine need for transport to school?
Distance, disability, childcare, availability of public transport, income, car owner.
Of course there are many variables and each case would have to be judged seperately.

Someone could live 2 miles away but have no public transport - they'd qualify, but not if they had a car. Someone else might live 10 miles away but have good transport links - they wouldn't qualify, unless they'd struggle to get the child on the bus for some reason or they were on a low income and could'nt afford it. In both cases they may have other children that can't be taken along or looked after by someone else, in which case they'd qualify.

I think basically would someone struggle to get their child to school if a taxi wasn't provided for the reasons listed above, not just because it would be an inconvenience.


You must be the only one who gave your opinion :wink:

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:21 pm 
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I've had another idea :idea:

First question would be 'Can you get your child to school on foot in 15 minutes or less ?' If the answer is yes then they do not qualify for a taxi, if the answer is no then the next question should be;

'If using public transport or your own vehicle are you able to get your child to school in 30 minutes or less ?' If the answer is yes then they do not qualify for a taxi, if the answer is no then the next question is;

'Is this due to disability, cost or being unable to leave other children unattended ?' If the answer is no then they do not qualify for a taxi, if it's yes they do qualify.

So the first question ignores all disability and distance requirements, a healthy average person could walk a healthy child nearly a mile in the 15 mins, but an overweight disabled person pushing a disabled child in a wheelchair might only cover 1/4 mile. But in each case they can get to school in 15 mins or less.

It's not about disability or distance, it's about how long it takes to complete the journey. And only after that considering other factors. In all cases if it takes less than 30 minutes to get to school no transport should be provided.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:38 pm 
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sasha wrote:
I've had another idea :idea:

First question would be 'Can you get your child to school on foot in 15 minutes or less ?' If the answer is yes then they do not qualify for a taxi, if the answer is no then the next question should be;

'If using public transport or your own vehicle are you able to get your child to school in 30 minutes or less ?' If the answer is yes then they do not qualify for a taxi, if the answer is no then the next question is;

'Is this due to disability, cost or being unable to leave other children unattended ?' If the answer is no then they do not qualify for a taxi, if it's yes they do qualify.

So the first question ignores all disability and distance requirements, a healthy average person could walk a healthy child nearly a mile in the 15 mins, but an overweight disabled person pushing a disabled child in a wheelchair might only cover 1/4 mile. But in each case they can get to school in 15 mins or less.

It's not about disability or distance, it's about how long it takes to complete the journey. And only after that considering other factors. In all cases if it takes less than 30 minutes to get to school no transport should be provided.

The legal distance for primary school children is 2 miles, not 1 mile.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:42 pm 
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Here is a link to the government guidelines governing school transport.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... cument.pdf

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:17 pm 
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grandad wrote:
Here is a link to the government guidelines governing school transport.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... cument.pdf


That's informative, but, I just wanted to know what regular people/drivers thought was reasonable not what officials think is reasonable

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 4:50 am 
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toots wrote:
grandad wrote:
Here is a link to the government guidelines governing school transport.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... cument.pdf


That's informative, but, I just wanted to know what regular people/drivers thought was reasonable not what officials think is reasonable



Walking two miles to school is reasonable IMO for any able bodied child.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:24 am 
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toots wrote:
grandad wrote:
Here is a link to the government guidelines governing school transport.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... cument.pdf


That's informative, but, I just wanted to know what regular people/drivers thought was reasonable not what officials think is reasonable
I think the current guidelines in the above document are about right.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 5:42 pm 
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The problem is whilst we rather dislike lazy chav parents taking liberties, many of us like the money the trade receives for taking their kids to school.

Sadly the latter outweighs the former.

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