Taxi Driver Online

We all now know that CEC refuses to tell licence holders brought into its punishment process what their rights are, and that can and has led to loss of licence and livelihood.

In fact, CEC says that if it were to tell us what our rights in its process are before it punishes us, that would be akin to giving us legal advice.

How's that for a caring council?

Mushroom Human Rights. Feed sh*te to those who are about to be punished and keep them in the dark as the council encourages (coerces) them to give up information that the council can then use against them (corroborating a complaint that otherwise the council couldn't substantiate.)

But Jim Martin, the Scottish Public services Ombudsman (he's the Queen's appointed official who's supposed to be independent and to arbitrate impartially between a public body and those who are aggrieved by that body's mistreatment of them) reckons that the council, through Police Inspector Frank Smith, can interrogate taxi drivers without cautioning them as to their rights in the process, and that formal rights will be accorded to licence holders when the matter comes before the kangaroo court of councillors to have their licence removed.

In other words, spill your guts, incriminate yourself and then we'll observe your rights after you've done it.

A case of locking the Human Rights stable door after the horse has bolted.

Aren't we all proud in how we live in an accountable democracy, a free society where all are equal in Law?

And aren't we glad that we live under the protection of our "benevolent" City of Edinburgh Council? Because aren't council officials, both elected and unelected, honourable people? People whom we can trust implicitly to behave properly and treat us with respect?

As was shown when a female cabby went into a loo, and inadvertently stopped a tram (during its trial period mind you, not even when it was in public service) and was fined two weeks wages.

Presumably her crime was she embarrassed the council - our "caring" SNP controlled council. And we all know how pompous self-important councils don't like to be embarrassed, don't we?

So, all Jim Martin - Scottish Public Services Ombudsman - proved was that SPSO is not impartial. It is not independent. It is simply another political filter to deflect abuses by public bodies away from holding those bodies to real public account.

SPSO makes no pretence at trying to stop the problem of abusive councils. It is undoubtedly part of the problem.

In 21st century Scotland, government can abuse us, and accord us Human Rights once it has done so.

Cameron wants to pull the Human Rights Act?

Who cares? The Act hasn't prevented City of Edinburgh Council abusing us.

When will it be your turn?

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Skull, "You are a police inspector, aren't you?"
Cab Inspector Smith, "Yes."
Skull, "So, are you going to tell Mr Taylor what his rights are?"
Smith, "And ... What rights?"

Simple get Unionised then stop this crap .........the legal route FFs have you got a Brain

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Seriously jasbar why do you make these long winded posts??
I know there is an element of truth in what you say but equally I am a believer if you have done nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about. Therefore in nearly thirty years of taxi driving I have followed all prescribed rules and guidance from the CEC and have never been called in to explain myself nor been charged with anything nor had my license suspended. Therefore the rights question has not applied to me nor thousands of other Edinburgh taxi drivers who have been similarly behaved.
The point I would agree with you was the two weeks loss of income for the "misguided parking" of the female cabby. TBH it was a bloody terrible piece of parking but loss of two weeks earnings was way over the top.
I know your aggrieved at many things to do with the CEC and Taxi Inspectors in Edinburgh but it does appear you will never win so what is the point coming on here and telling people every few months your thoughts when with the greatest respect nobody cares........

HSSC, do you think you will ever grow up?

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Skull, "You are a police inspector, aren't you?"
Cab Inspector Smith, "Yes."
Skull, "So, are you going to tell Mr Taylor what his rights are?"
Smith, "And ... What rights?"

Even for you that's poor jasbar. You post a trio of posts which are obviously of major importance to you, which is fine. Clearly from the responses on all 3 I am not alone in wondering why you bother???
As I said very few people care about your views so maybe you could enlighten me on the connection between your post, my reply and growing up???
Can hardly wait for what you have to say

Seriously, you believe this is how the system actually works?

The truth is hssc, as a taxi driver you are a second class citizen who is accorded no rights of due process whatsoever and you blindly comply with not so much a whimper. And therein lies the problem, rightly or wrongly, if you fall foul of any laws, your only choice is to throw oneself on the mercy of the authority. You are not defending yourself, you are spilling your guts while begging to be treated leniently.

Now I know, why you think the way you do but it's pretty sad that when confronted by the truth of your situation, you defend the contempt the authority has for you and don't expect anything better. Have you no dignity?

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

The female taxi driver was fined two weeks wages, and her cab owner lost two weeks rental because of YOU and those like you.

What is contained in my posts should be of real interest to you. But there again, I don't care whether you understand the issues or not.

I have never been the serf slave taxi driver that you are.

All I am doing is highlighting in an articulate way how your rights are fundamentally breached by City of Edinburgh Council, how they used a serving Police Inspector, Frank Smith, to breach cabbies' rights, and am taking what steps I can to try to put it right.

It's been hard work, and the Skull and I expect no thanks.

But then, we're not pursuing this your benefit. Or the trade's. Or even for the drivers in the trade who meekly accept their serf status.

We're doing it because it is right to do so, and for self-respect.

NOTE: The council has claimed it has considered your rights in its process. There is no evidence that it ever has. And it wouldn't even be considering the question until we raised it. Terence Higgins, Andrew Mitchell and all the other licensing officials who claim their processes are Human Rights compliant can't prove it - THEY ARE LIARS.

Isn't it interesting HSSC that you are subservient to a council process administered and controlled by these liars?

And the fact that you are, is the precise reason why I asked whether you are ever going to grow up, and stop being a child.

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Skull, "You are a police inspector, aren't you?"
Cab Inspector Smith, "Yes."
Skull, "So, are you going to tell Mr Taylor what his rights are?"
Smith, "And ... What rights?"

Seriously, you believe this is how the system actually works?

The truth is hssc, as a taxi driver you are a second class citizen who is accorded no rights of due process whatsoever and you blindly comply with not so much a whimper. And therein lies the problem, rightly or wrongly, if you fall foul of any laws, your only choice is to throw oneself on the mercy of the authority. You are not defending yourself, you are spilling your guts while begging to be treated leniently.

Now I know, why you think the way you do but it's pretty sad that when confronted by the truth of your situation, you defend the contempt the authority has for you and don't expect anything better. Have you no dignity? [/quote]


Skull I despair at the fact that you and jasbar are so filled with anger/bitterness or whatever that this and other issue seem to consume a large part of your life. Good for you if that's what you wish to do, I respect your position to try and change what you see as a wrong.
But really..........stop both of you going on and on and on and on about it on here. Apart from the two of you are there any or many others who post "well done lads" or "great effort" or "keep up the good work" or even "thanks"?? I don't see them so if you want to do this sterling work then bash on just stop telling people all the details as I think you know by now most if not all the others on here do not care.
Also the comments such as "second class citizen" are pathetic. As was jasbar's over complicated over long response. Lots of words but zero substance. Just the ramblings of a bitter and twisted person.
Anyway I will not be back for a long time on here as the fact is when you two start your pish I just want to give up.
You are a clever man Skull and I actually like your posts on a lot of stuff as for jasbar well there is a village somewhere missing its idiot

Skull I despair at the fact that you and jasbar are so filled with anger/bitterness or whatever that this and other issue seem to consume a large part of your life. Good for you if that's what you wish to do, I respect your position to try and change what you see as a wrong.
But really..........stop both of you going on and on and on and on about it on here. Apart from the two of you are there any or many others who post "well done lads" or "great effort" or "keep up the good work" or even "thanks"?? I don't see them so if you want to do this sterling work then bash on just stop telling people all the details as I think you know by now most if not all the others on here do not care.
Also the comments such as "second class citizen" are pathetic. As was jasbar's over complicated over long response. Lots of words but zero substance. Just the ramblings of a bitter and twisted person.
Anyway I will not be back for a long time on here as the fact is when you two start your pish I just want to give up.
You are a clever man Skull and I actually like your posts on a lot of stuff as for jasbar well there is a village somewhere missing its idiot [/quote]


HSSC, don’t you get it, it’s the fu*king insult.

I know when someone is attempting to bend me over and shove it up my ar*e. There’s an old saying “ignorance is bliss” well not for me. Imagine the situation - you’ve got some number crunching ars*hole like Frank Smith or Terrance Higgins expecting me to spill my guts so they can pretend to be doing their jobs? And then you get to kiss ass up at the council in a bid to earn a pitiful crust picking up scumbags. Oh and most of your colleagues want you to lose your license because you dared to say, fu*k you, I’m not prepared to take this sh*t. I want to be treated with the same respect, I give to others who respect me. Oh and because everyone accepts this crap and "plays the game", I’ve got it wrong? I don’t think so somehow. I’m not angry or bitter, I simply stand up for what I believe. And I’ve made it my business to know and understand how the system works and I choose not to play their game. I am who I am and I feel good about it.

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All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"

And there are politicians around who want the UK to withdraw from Human Rights legislation.

And let's hope you use your time away productively, like with a holiday tryst with Jihadi John.

Because that is the degree of control over you that you are inviting with your stupidity.

And you're almost there already, because you're not bothered whether when City of Edinburgh Council tells you it has protected your fundamental rights, whether it really has and is not just lying because it has never formally considered what your rights are and can't prove it ever has.

The council has been caught napping. It is embarrassed and Jim martin of SPSO, supposed to exist to protect us, has broken every tenet of democratic decency to filter the complaint out of the system.

And the reason why we have to devote so much time to this campaign, is because the council has so much to lose.

It could have dealt quietly with this matter. Until now we conducted most of it without publicity. It could have gone away, subtle changes made to procedures and no one with a claim against the council any the wiser.

But Mitchell, Higgins et al, and who can forget the other scumbags other involved, are arrogant f*ckwits who prefer domination rather than concensus and rights. On their heads ...

Police Inspector Frank Smith conducted an interview in a situation where he didn't know what rights should be applied. What does that say about the Police?

Cabbies are routinely abused. It beggar's belief that any other cabby thinks this is acceptable.

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Skull, "You are a police inspector, aren't you?"
Cab Inspector Smith, "Yes."
Skull, "So, are you going to tell Mr Taylor what his rights are?"
Smith, "And ... What rights?"