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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:19 pm 
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Then theres of course Drivers from Afghanistan Syria Lebanon Turkey Iraq Iran Northern Cyprus Pakistan India Sri Lanka etc All OF WHOM CANNOT SUPPLY CRIMINAL RECORDS CHECKS TO THE STANDARD REQUIRED OF THE INDIGENOUS POPULATION which of course in the interests of public safety IS totally unacceptable :evil: :evil: :evil:

maybe UPHD you can respond to these legitimate concerns ???????????????????????????????????????????????????

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 7:00 pm 
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Enhanced DBs checks for all drivers bollox as you well know Drivers from eastern Europe cannot be checked to the same standards as the indigenous Drivers :D ie those that have been resident here for all their lives, double standards for sure #-o #-o

:lol: that proves how small minded you are and how outdated you are.... the first thing following an application is certificate of criminal record from country of origin issued by ministry of justice which is then cross-checked and then there's local dbs check... so, it means that ee potential driver is checked twice... double standarts? anyway, how about decent british citizen having criminal record i.e. from Spain which locals don't know about? better candidate? coz is indigenous? =D>


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Enhanced DBs checks for all drivers bollox as you well know Drivers from eastern Europe cannot be checked to the same standards as the indigenous Drivers :D ie those that have been resident here for all their lives, double standards for sure #-o #-o

:lol: that proves how small minded you are and how outdated you are.... the first thing following an application is certificate of criminal record from country of origin issued by ministry of justice which is then cross-checked and then there's local dbs check... so, it means that ee potential driver is checked twice... double standarts? anyway, how about decent british citizen having criminal record i.e. from Spain which locals don't know about? better candidate? coz is indigenous? =D>


O marek your ignorance is clearly profound #-o living in Spain obviously removes the "indigenous " classification :D

ministry of Justice oh yeh in Pakistan Afghanistan Iraq Iran India Turkey yes turkey etc yer avin a larff i always argued for 12 years continuous residency in the UK before being allowed to submit an application for a Hack or PH license

TELL ME WHY NOT :lol: :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:17 pm 
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ministry of Justice oh yeh in Pakistan Afghanistan Iraq Iran India Turkey yes turkey etc yer avin a larff i always argued for 12 years continuous residency in the UK before being allowed to submit an application for a Hack or PH license

TELL ME WHY NOT


Why 12 years..

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ministry of Justice oh yeh in Pakistan Afghanistan Iraq Iran India Turkey yes turkey etc yer avin a larff i always argued for 12 years continuous residency in the UK before being allowed to submit an application for a Hack or PH license

TELL ME WHY NOT


Why 12 years..


A reasonable time in which to establish an unblemished record suitable for licensing within the industry was OUR thinking.

what would you suggest oh mighty ONE :D

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Why 12 years..

The years of his life he has actually worked for a living. :roll: :roll: :roll:

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trotskys twin wrote:
o-marek wrote:
trotskys twin wrote:
Enhanced DBs checks for all drivers bollox as you well know Drivers from eastern Europe cannot be checked to the same standards as the indigenous Drivers :D ie those that have been resident here for all their lives, double standards for sure #-o #-o

:lol: that proves how small minded you are and how outdated you are.... the first thing following an application is certificate of criminal record from country of origin issued by ministry of justice which is then cross-checked and then there's local dbs check... so, it means that ee potential driver is checked twice... double standarts? anyway, how about decent british citizen having criminal record i.e. from Spain which locals don't know about? better candidate? coz is indigenous? =D>


O marek your ignorance is clearly profound #-o living in Spain obviously removes the "indigenous " classification :D

ministry of Justice oh yeh in Pakistan Afghanistan Iraq Iran India Turkey yes turkey etc yer avin a larff i always argued for 12 years continuous residency in the UK before being allowed to submit an application for a Hack or PH license

TELL ME WHY NOT :lol: :lol: :lol:

congrats! for positioning all above countries in EASTERN EUROPE! =D> that's really truth what others say that every village has one... =D>


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When you say 'indigenous population' and 'indigenous drivers' what do you mean exactly?

As you well know, enhanced DBS checks are required for all licensed drivers and UPHD will always insist upon that standard.


indigenous was i thought obvious #-o otherwise try a dictionary #-o

Enhanced DBs checks for all drivers bollox as you well know Drivers from eastern Europe cannot be checked to the same standards as the indigenous Drivers :D ie those that have been resident here for all their lives, double standards for sure #-o #-o

glad to see your prepared to have a knuckle =D> maybe your tactics need fine tuning ??

Whats your view of the GMBPDB?



Oh I know the definition of indigenous alright, just puzzled by the context here. 'Us' and 'them'? Val Shawcross lobbied TfL last year insisting the tests should be verbal only then comes to power and raises the bar. TfL's own regulatory impact assessment says there is no benefit since stakeholders see no problem - didnt stop them doing it anyway. Our biggest objection though is not granting grandfather rights - it is not reasonable to license a guy, move the goal posts and then disqualify leaving hims out of a job and in debt.

All of this is a smoke screen to attempt to reduce numbers with a scorched earth policy to hurt the most vulnerable workers rather than fronting up to greedy operators and imposing a cap which would take courage. City Hall saw what Uber did to Mayor DeBlasio in NYC last year when he tried to impose a cap. Instead of making the right political and policy choice they have instead chosen to target the poor and weak.

As for licensing - as you know everyone needs to licensed here for three years. If we are to disqualify everyone who needs a DBS to work and was born abroad then be prepared to kiss goodbye to the NHS.

As for GMB............... I will say that the trade union movement has made an amazing contribution to the life of this country, still does and still can. Of course there are always aspects of TU practices & devolved orgs that need improving. I suppose much the same as any org.


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Thats interesting UPHD Grandfahter rights well that precedent has been set Re Top Testing.fail to see why it cannot apply to this issue #-o #-o

A cap on numbers is surely in the intererests of Drivers?And most definitely would severely hurt the Proprietors ie the exploiting lying cheating scum that infest the industry,let me point out i worked as driver for 12 years so have extensive experience of WORKING for them and of course went on to negotiate with them and various officials at TFL and Government minister for another 12 years, rest assured the proprietors despicable characteristics were fully recognised by all Labour politicians when they were in power, the message needs to be got to Sadiq NOW!!
Target the POOR and the WEAK.....................poor for sure currently ...........WEAK never United and organised the Drivers could be EXTREMELY powerful time to get them creating havoc me thinks :D

Val Shawcross well given your organisation was a recognised Trade Union affiliated to the Labour Party it would just be a case of you giving her her instructions maybe you should consider that ??

As for the GMBPDB and your comments :D sitting on the fence there sunshine :D

your points regarding the NHS are of course relevant!

Have you considered joining the GMBPDB en bloc they have the recognition that would greatly assist you, for sure you would have to clean out a proprietor who uses it for his own personal gain and is dishonest and corrupt, but of course he has to be elected on a regular basis and removing him would very simple.

I support your demand for Grandfather Rights absolutely correct, i suspect a deal of negotiating will be necessary and maybe a little give and take.

feel free to PM me for anything confidential i might be able to assist you with it would be my pleasure :D

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