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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 9:56 am 
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Edinburgh taxi boss warns rail chiefs against pick-up charges at revamped Waverley

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A TAXI boss has warned rail chiefs against trying to charge cabs for picking up passengers at the revamped Waverley station.

He said most taxis would refuse to pay any levy which Network Rail tried to impose for using the Capital’s main train station if proposals for a massive redevelopment of the site go ahead.

A draft masterplan unveiled last month does not include much detail about taxi arrangements in the new layout, though one option is to create a street-level rank off Market Street by building up land within the current New Street car park.

Tony Kenmuir, of Central Taxis, said another idea floated was to use a ramp from Market Street down into the New Street car park.

The Calton Road entrance is also expected to become busier as part of the revamp.

Mr Kenmuir said he had an open mind about the proposals, but voiced fears a new rank could be on the “wrong side” of the station.

He said: “Most people when they come out of Waverley are heading north, south or west. If someone gets off the train and the taxi pulls out of New Street, we would have to drive around it – people could be in the taxi for five or ten minutes with £6 on the meter and still be looking at Waverley station.”

And he said he had made clear his company would not be paying to use any rank.

“If the project is a wheeze to try and take money off the taxi trade, I don’t see why we would drop people off, drive empty to the wrong side of the station and pay for the privilege of getting in.

“I don’t charge them for delivering passengers to them. Why should they charge me for picking them up? We pay our licence for the privilege of picking up anywhere in the licensing area.

“Some taxi drivers individually might decide to pay but the majority will not.”

The taxi rank inside the station was removed in 2014, causing an outcry from disabled people and others who said the move made access more difficult.

Mr Kenmuir said: “They kicked us out of the station and said it was for security reasons. Now they apparently want to let us back in, but charge us for it.

“I think we’ve got wise to that. We will not be paying them.”

Network Rail said no decision had been made on the issue of charging taxis.

A spokesman said: “We have not gone into that level of detail yet.

“But it is pretty standard now for taxis to pay a charge for pick-ups when they are using ranks in stations or 
airports.”

There is a public exhibition of the masterplan proposals on the station concourse until Friday, April 26.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 10:00 am 
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“Some taxi drivers individually might decide to pay but the majority will not.”


Well that's the thing - doubt if Network Rail are bothered that *all* of Edinburgh's 1,200 HCs won't pay to rank at Waverley Station.

So can't really see the point of him sounding off like this - it won't change Network Rail's mind on this (assuming they've already made up their mind) and because his circuit is no doubt under pressure he knows that the circuit won't pay, and individual drivers on his circuit won't pay additional fees to work the station.

So just sounding off, basically.


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Stansted just gone up to £4.00 I suspect network rail have seen how lucrative it is proving for the airports and fancy a piece of the action or will we see someone like Arrow cars be given the station work for a sizeable wedge :wink:

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:31 pm 
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He said most taxis would refuse to pay any levy

And those that do will kop the lot.

Not agreeing with it, but that's the way of things in 2019.

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edders23 wrote:
Stansted just gone up to £4.00 I suspect network rail have seen how lucrative it is proving for the airports and fancy a piece of the action or will we see someone like Arrow cars be given the station work for a sizeable wedge :wink:


That's why I don't understand Tony Kenmuir's stance - pick-up and drop-off fees have been in operation for years at the airport, and are provided for on the tariff card. And rail station charges common elsewhere, so since he's certainly not stupid he'll be well aware of those. Which is why I think he's just sounding off for no other real purpose.

(In fact don't know if a rail station pick-up fee could be included on the tariff card if Waverley does start charging - are those common elsewhere?)

Incidentally, the Edinburgh tariff card is beyond ridiculous as regards making the drop-off charge unclear - no doubt it's complex because it's not a straightforward scenario to explain on a tariff card, but imagine a foreign tourist trying to read and understand this, or the driver having to explain it to them, never mind the locals.

Edinburgh HC tariff card wrote:
Hires ending at Edinburgh Airport Inner Drop-off Zone (See Note 4 below) £1.00

Airport Pickup - For hires commencing at Edinburgh airport maximum £2.80


(4) The Airport Extra is only payable if passenger is dropped off in the covered inner drop-off zone at Edinburgh Airport and the driver has explained to the passenger before the start of the journey - (1) He will take the passenger to the drop off point just beside the airport terminal and that there is a £1 extra for this. (2) If the passenger states he is disabled, the £1 extra still has to be paid, but the driver understands that the passenger can reclaim this from the airport at the drop-off point. (3) If the passenger wishes to avoid the £1 extra, he can be taken to an outer drop-off point. However, this is further from the airport terminal, involves the use of a free shuttle bus and will require more time for the passenger to get to the airport terminal.


In fact it seems the driver is obliged to explain it all to the punter before imposing the charge, but wouldn't be surprised if this rule isn't always strictly observed [-(


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At one time taxis working grotsville station had a one pound surcharge for station pick ups towards the station permit fee.

Not sure it is still the case as lots of locals started booking non station taxis to avoid the charge

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