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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:08 pm 
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Suspect a lot of this is a bit pie-in-the-sky, and in the real world it will turn out to be a whole lot messier.

As usual, a mix of marketing hype (from the firm) and politicking (from the council), and the reality probably won't quite live up to the 'vision', or whatever they're calling it.


1,500-car City Taxis in Sheffield unveils £50m plan to go electric

https://www.thestar.co.uk/business/excl ... ic-1339642

Sheffield’s biggest taxi firm has unveiled £50m plans to roll out 1,500 new cars - and become one of the first in Europe to go fully electric.

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Arnie Singh, MD of City Taxis in Sheffield (Image: Sheffield Star)

City Taxis is set to make the radical shift in a link-up with French car giant Nissan-Renault. It comes after plans were announced for a Clean Air Zone in Sheffield city centre charging £10-a-day for the most polluting vehicles and £50 for buses.

City bosses say they handle at least 20,000 bookings a week inside the proposed area and doing nothing would force them to put up fares, leading to a drop in journeys. That would harm the firm, the drivers and the economy.

Managing director Arnie Singh said the switch, by 2025, would not just improve the city’s air but its international image.

He added: “I’m very excited. I want Sheffield to have the first electric taxi fleet in the UK. If we are going for it, let’s go for it as a city and do it right.”

The link-up with Nissan-Renault came after City’s software supplier iCabbi was snapped up by the car maker’s banking arm RCI Banque.

Mr Singh then discussed the potential supply of 1,500 cars on a visit to Renault’s futuristic vehicle labs near Paris.

The scheme hinges on the success of a pilot of seven electric Nissan Leafs. But bosses are sufficiently confident that a public launch of the scheme will be held at the Crucible today, with representatives from iCabbi, RCI Banque and Sheffield City Council.

Under the plan, up to 12 rapid-charging hubs in shipping containers would be installed around the city.

The £120,000 units, which can charge up to 10 cars at a time, would be open to the public and have wifi, a toilet and coffee facilities. City is in talks with Sheffield City Council about their location, Mr Singh said.

Drivers would pay for the cars over a fixed period, but their costs would be lower because they were no longer paying for fuel, he added.

Coun Bob Johnson, cabinet member for transport and development at Sheffield City Council, said the authority would do “everything it can” to make the project a success.

He added: “Responding to the climate emergency and improving air quality for residents is of the highest priority for us all.

“We applaud the vision and innovation being shown by City Taxis and we welcome their plans to move to an electric fleet. The changes will make a big difference in reducing harmful air pollution in the city.

“It’s Sheffield’s ambition to move towards an ultra-low emissions taxi fleet and we need to support this by making sure that there are rapid charging points available for the drivers to recharge their vehicles.

“In the new year we will install 22 charge points with capacity for 44 vehicles. We have been talking to taxi drivers to make sure they’re located in the right place.

“Sheffield City Council will do everything it can to enable City Taxis to roll out a successful series of pilots and full roll out beyond.”

Sheffield’s proposed Clean Air Zone is set to be introduced in early 2021 and apply to all non-compliant vehicles within, or on, the ring road. City hopes to have 700 electric vehicles on the road by then.

In recent years the firm has bought Mercury in Sheffield and rivals in Barnsley, Rotherham, Chesterfield and Derby in what it says is a successful bid to stave off competition from Uber.

Mr Singh, who has worked at City for 14 years, led a management buy-out a year ago. He has presided over a big tech push that has included a customer app, automated phone bookings and a takeaway food delivery service to rival Deliveroo.

The £10m turnover firm on Bold Street in Attercliffe says it maintains a human element, with a drivers’ lounge at its headquarters and customer service centre.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:09 pm 
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In recent years the firm has bought Mercury in Sheffield and rivals in Barnsley, Rotherham, Chesterfield and Derby in what it says is a successful bid to stave off competition from Uber.

Thought 1,500 cars sounded a bit big for Sheffield, but the number presumably includes these operations elsewhere.

As is so often the case, the headline doesn't quite concur with the reality [-(


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Not so sure sheffield is quite a big city circa 600000 with a substantial student population so if they are the biggest fish in the pond 1000 plus vehicles sounds quite plausible

but I think we need our sheffield correspondent to give us the full info (and local gossip)

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edders23 wrote:
Not so sure sheffield is quite a big city circa 600000 with a substantial student population so if they are the biggest fish in the pond 1000 plus vehicles sounds quite plausible


According to the DfT stats there's about 1,800/1,900 PHVs in Sheffield.

So 1,500 would certainly represent an, er, dominant position in the market.

Not beyond the realms of possibility, but I suspect the 1,500 figure includes cars in other areas :idea:


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edders23 wrote:
Not so sure sheffield is quite a big city circa 600000 with a substantial student population so if they are the biggest fish in the pond 1000 plus vehicles sounds quite plausible


According to the DfT stats there's about 1,800/1,900 PHVs in Sheffield. :shock:

So 1,500 would certainly represent an, er, dominant position in the market.

Not beyond the realms of possibility, but I suspect the 1,500 figure includes cars in other areas :idea:



less than 2000 in a city that size they must be raking it in

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City bosses say they handle at least 20,000 bookings a week inside the proposed area and doing nothing would force them to put up fares, leading to a drop in journeys.

So that equates to less than 14 jobs a week, two a day. #-o

If a firm is going to spin numbers FFS make those numbers a bit more sensible. :roll: :roll: :roll:

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City cars are feeling the pinch within the inner city cos poober is clearing up the student and chinese market.they still have good work in the outer suburbs ,they probably have about 6/700 vehicles (sheffield)including hacks .my mate who I speak to daily says he clears a Ton every day but,he pays a £100 a week radio rent.partly because of the influx of out of town poober the inner city is struggling and generally people are not going out like what they use to.


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edders23 wrote:
less than 2000 in a city that size they must be raking it in


Yes, doesn't seem a huge amount for the population.

If you look at the DfT stats there are some odd numbers, though.

Bristol, for example, only around 1,000 PHVs for a population of 460,000.

And HC numbers not particularly high at around 650.

And must be some mistakes in the tables I'm looking at (the ones from March 2018).

I mean, Leicester and Coventry both around 360,000 population.

Yet Leicester has 1,441 PHVs, while Coventry only 211 :-s

Unless many of the PHVs working in Coventry are plated in nearby Wolverhampton, but even so 211 seems very low for locally-plated PHVs in a city of that size.


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