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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:20 pm 
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Cabbies in Canterbury district fear for livelihoods if ban on ‘polluting’ taxis imposed

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Among the concerned taxi drivers are, from left, Will Thomas, 59, Abe Housein, 58, Mustafa Ustabas, 42 and Mondi Asllanaj, 44

A city council ban on taxis ‘polluting’ the district’s streets could see hundreds forced off the road this summer.

The local authority is phasing out diesel and petrol vehicles as it strives towards having only electric cabs by 2030.

But the next step of the plan is causing most concern, and has left drivers in the Canterbury district fearing for their livelihoods.

Because from August, the authority will refuse to license any taxi failing to meet the latest emission standards - known as Euro 6.

The rules, which are set to be enforced in August, will affect all Euro 5 vehicles, which are predominantly petrol and diesel cabs registered before 2015, and pump out more toxic fumes.

Abe Housein, 58, who has been a cabbie for 24 years, has described the changes as “too scary to think about”.

To replace his eight-seater Fiat Scudo - which is Euro 5 and was registered in 2014 - with a suitable electric equivalent would cost him anywhere between £30,000 and £100,000.

He says one model he test drove, which retails at £73,500, did not even cover the 200 miles he does a day on one charge.

As a result, he believes having to fork out for a new car would make the job unviable.

“It would put me on the dole,” said the dad-of-three, who says drivers can earn as little as £30 a day, but sometimes more than £100.

“I’ve never been on it (the dole) at 58 years old but I don’t have tens of thousands floating around to buy an electric taxi that doesn’t even do the job that I want.

“I could drive a smaller car but it doesn’t benefit my work because I would lose my school run and the families.

“The financial impact is too scary to think about.”

The city council wants the district’s entire taxi fleet to be either electric or hybrid by 2025, and 100% electric by 2030.

But cabbies say the target dates are “ridiculous” and should be delayed until more charging points are installed, and vehicles become more affordable and practical for taxi work.

Mr Housein said: “We don’t even have enough charging points. If we went out and bought electric taxis now, we’d be in big trouble. We don’t even have the infrastructure yet.

“They put a charging point at the front of the taxi rank. The wire doesn’t even reach the charging point of one guy’s car. He has his own wire but you’re not allowed to link them together.

“You would think you would come out and check this.”

There are currently two charging points at both the Canterbury Lane and St George’s Lane taxi ranks, and another in the Maynard Road car park for private hire vehicles.

The council is not able to provide exact figures for the number of taxis that could be affected by this summer’s changes.

But little more than three years ago, 92% of the 502 licensed vehicles in the district failed to meet the Euro 6 standard.

Taxi driver Mondi Asllanaj, 44, had to replace his Euro 5 car with a Euro 6 VW Caddy following a collision last summer.

“I couldn’t buy the same car so I had to buy another, which cost me £19,000,” he said.

“In three years’ time it will be the end of the licence (for the VW Caddy), because I will then have to get a hybrid or an electric car.”

Mr Asllanaj has concerns about his livelihood because of the city council’s plans.

“I’m really worried because I have a mortgage and two young kids - it’s not easy,” the Canterbury resident added.

Mustafa Ustabas, 42, says he will have to replace his car this year as it is Euro 5.

“I am struggling to find one,” he said. “Even the second-hand car market is quite high at the moment.

“There is nothing out there for me that’s less than £20,000.”

Richard Williams, who has been a taxi driver since 1986, says electric vehicles are not an option “at the moment”.

“You can get vehicles with a 250-mile range on them but they still take 45 minutes to charge up, so it’s not really a possibility,” said the 60-year-old, who drives a 2014 Volkswagen Passat.

“We could work around it and get a charging point at home, which costs about £800, but it is a massive expense.”

“You can get vehicles with a 250-mile range on them but they still take 45 minutes to charge up..."
A spokesman for Canterbury City Council says the authority is already considering whether the timetable for the changes needs to be amended.

“Tackling climate change and cutting pollution to improve air quality around the district are key priorities for the council, and requiring taxi drivers to do their bit as quickly as possible is really important,” he said.

“We listened carefully to the taxi trade when introducing this policy and promised to keep it under constant review because it depended on charging points being in place and how advanced electric vehicles had become by the time it was due to be implemented, especially how far they could travel on a single charge.

“We are already considering whether the timetable needs amending in light of all of these factors. If licence holders have a clear view on a timetable they can deliver on, we would be keen to hear from them. This is an issue that is not going away so we need to work together to tackle it head on.”

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:23 pm 
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“We are already considering whether the timetable needs amending in light of all of these factors. If licence holders have a clear view on a timetable they can deliver on, we would be keen to hear from them. This is an issue that is not going away so we need to work together to tackle it head on.”

Looks like the local council is open to discussions and maybe delay, suggest the local trade meet up with them soon to sort out a deal.

That should, hopefully, ease the pressure off some of the drivers who maybe would have otherwise left the trade.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:15 pm 
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He says one model he test drove, which retails at £73,500, did not even cover the 200 miles he does a day on one charge.

As a result, he believes having to fork out for a new car would make the job unviable.

“It would put me on the dole,” said the dad-of-three, who says drivers can earn as little as £30 a day, but sometimes more than £100.

Somehow doubt he does 200 miles on the days he makes £30. Or £100, even.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 5:10 pm 
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Ban on 'polluting' taxis set to be pushed back by Canterbury City Council after outcry by cabbies

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Plans to phase out "polluting" taxis could be pushed back by the city council following an outcry from cabbies fearing for their livelihoods.

The local authority wants to phase out diesel and petrol vehicles in the district as it strives towards operating only electric cabs by 2030.

But drivers were particularly concerned by council plans to refuse to license any taxi that failed to meet the latest emission standards - known as Euro 6 - from August this year in the Canterbury district, which includes Whitstable and Herne Bay.

The rules would have affected all Euro 5 vehicles, which are predominantly petrol and diesel cabs registered before 2015 and pump out more toxic fumes.

However, several amendments to the proposals have been set out in a report set to be voted on at a cabinet meeting on Monday.

If agreed, existing Euro 5 petrol or diesel vehicles will be licensed until August 1, 2024 - but there will be no new applications granted from August this year.

Euro 6 vehicles will now be licensed until August 1, 2028, and the requirement for the entire fleet to be electric has been pushed back to August 1, 2033.

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Cabbie of 24 years Abe Housein, 58, has been a vocal critic of the timetable for the changes, which he previously described as “too scary to think about”.

To replace his eight-seater Fiat Scudo - which is Euro 5 and was registered in 2014 - with a suitable electric equivalent would cost him anywhere between £30,000 and £100,000.

He says one model he test drove, which retails at £73,500, would not even cover the 200 miles he does a day on one charge.

But he has welcomed the council's plan to extend the timescale for the changes.

"It will give drivers a bit more time to get some money together," he said.

"If it does get voted through, 91 drivers’ Euro 5 cars will be saved.

"It would be a great victory for the trade after the two and half years of it being bad.

"We have never said we never wanted it to happen - it was all about the timeframe which is now a sensible one but could maybe swing a bit more in our favour."

Mr Housein still has concerns about the lack of infrastructure to cater for a hike in the number of hybrid and electric cars on the district's streets, specifically relating to charging points.

"You can’t put them up the ranks, can you imagine the eyesore it would be and how many we would need," he added.

"I don’t think the charging points are ready and we have a very long way to go."

There are two charging points at both the Canterbury Lane and St George’s Lane taxi ranks, and another in the Maynard Road car park for private hire vehicles.

And there are currently no plans to install further charging points for taxis or private hire vehicles in 2022/23 as there is "no available funding for this infrastructure, through grants or capital funds", the council report states.

The council officer's recommendation proposes all new vehicle applications must be for at least a plug-in hybrid vehicle from August 1, 2026 - to be licensed for up to seven years.

The report also suggests all new vehicle applications must be for battery electric vehicles from April 1, 2030, to be licensed for up to seven years but extended to 10 years subject to annual inspection.

There could also be further adjustments to the timetable if required as an annual review of technology, infrastructure and suitable vehicles is proposed.

A next full review of the taxi and private hire policy is due to take place in 2026.


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He says one model he test drove, which retails at £73,500, did not even cover the 200 miles he does a day on one charge.

As a result, he believes having to fork out for a new car would make the job unviable.

“It would put me on the dole,” said the dad-of-three, who says drivers can earn as little as £30 a day, but sometimes more than £100.

Somehow doubt he does 200 miles on the days he makes £30. Or £100, even.



depends how much of that is dead mileage

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