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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2025 8:19 am 
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thats news to us NOT :roll:

but heh it's geting negative publicity for the airports hopefully

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyg0ly2ld8o

More than half of Britain's busiest airports have raised "kiss-and-fly" fees for cars dropping off passengers close to terminals, according to research from the RAC.

The motoring group found 11 out of 20 UK airports had put up prices since last July, with Gatwick, Bristol, Leeds Bradford and Southampton joining Stansted in charging the top rate of £7 to park for a matter of minutes.

In contrast, at nine of the 10 busiest airports in the European Union there are no drop-off fees.

Airports UK, which represents the industry, said all hubs offer free drop-off options further from the terminals, such as "park and ride" facilities where people can leave their car and take a bus to the airport.

London Heathrow, Edinburgh, Birmingham and Liverpool all raised their prices by £1 to £6 for between 10 and 20 minutes.

The RAC also found that Cardiff airport had introduced a fee for the first time, asking £3 for 10 minutes.

Meanwhile, London Luton and Manchester airports are the most expensive on a cost-per-minute basis, the research showed, with drivers paying £5 to stop for five minutes.

Rod Dennis, senior policy officer at the RAC, said: "Drivers are a captive audience and that's why we think airports are so keen on these sorts of fees. But honestly, £7 for a stop that could be no more than 10 minutes does seem a little steep.

"And the fact that these costs keep going up year after year I think is going to be a huge source of frustration for anyone dropping off a friend or loved one this summer."

The cost of passenger drop-offs has risen at most major airports
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A bar chart showing the minimum cost of dropping off passengers at selected UK airports, in July 2024 and July 2025, according to analysis by RAC. For Gatwick, the cost has risen from £6 in July 2024 to £7 in July 2025, for Stansted it has stayed at £7, for Bristol it has risen from £6 to £7, for Leeds Bradford it has risen from £6.50 to £7, for Southampton it has risen from £6 to £7, for Heathrow it has risen from £5 to £6, for Edinburgh it has risen from £5 to £6, for Birmingham it has risen from £5 to £6, for Glasgow it has risen from £5.50 to £6, and for Liverpool John Lennon it has risen from £5 to £6.
Infographic wouldn't copy and paste so an approximate recreation by me including spacing of columns which as soon as I posted dissappeared :roll:

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July 2024 July 2025
Gatwick £6.00 £7.00
Stansted £7.00 £7.00
Bristol £6.00 £7.00
Leeds Bradford £6.50 £7.00
Southampton £6.00 £7.00
Heathrow £5.00 £6.00
Edinburgh £5.00 £6.00
Birmingham £5.00 £6.00
Glasgow £5.50 £6.00
Liverpool JL £5.00 £6.00

In the RAC's survey of European airports, hubs including Frankfurt and Paris Charles de Gaulle charged nothing. Only Schipol in the Netherlands asked for €2.50 (£2.17) to kiss-and-fly.

Karen Dee, chief executive of Airports UK, said: "Where fees are charged, this helps airports manage and reduce congestion, noise, carbon emissions and air pollution for local communities, something that they are mandated to do by the Government and local authorities.

"These charges are a part of the airport business model and help enable the provision of the widest variety of flights from the airport."

London City airport was the only one on the list which charges no fee.

A spokesperson for Gatwick, said: "The drop off charge helps to limit the number of cars and reduces congestion at the entrance to our terminals and funds a number of sustainable transport initiatives."

It added that holders of a Blue Badge, which is a parking permit for people with disabilities or health conditions affecting mobility, remain exempt from the charge.

Belfast and Southampton also said Blue Badge holders remain exempt from the fees.

On lifting its kiss-and-fly prices, a spokesperson for Southampton, said: "All of the funds generated through our parking facility are reinvested into the airport and play an important role in securing new routes for the region."

The BBC has contacted other airports for comment.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2025 8:21 am 
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Karen Dee, chief executive of Airports UK, said: "Where fees are charged, this helps airports manage and reduce congestion, noise, carbon emissions and air pollution for local communities, something that they are mandated to do by the Government and local authorities.


nothing to do with encouraging airlines to use them by offering reduced landing fees and making big profits for the shareholders then :badgrin:

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The airports don't give a flying f***.

They know we will pay it, or more to the point the punters that pay us will pay it.

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At East Midlands airport the short stay car park is next to the rapid drop off. The thing is as the drop off is not designated as a car park you pay from the moment you enter. However the short stay carpark, being designated as a car park that means you have to be allowed 10 minutes to be able to find a space so if you are in and out within that time they can't charge you. You get a token when you go in and put it in the machine at the barrier when you leave. no charge.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2025 12:46 pm 
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follow up story featuring Edinburgh Airport (most of the pics of smiling drivers in their cars removed due to repetitiveness)

article is very long for the message and info contained

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd78lee2enpo

It's a hot and sticky Friday in the middle of the summer holidays and cars are flooding onto Edinburgh Airport's approach road.

There are few places to stop, but in almost every lay-by a steady stream of drivers await friends and loved ones touching down from their holidays.

They are all parked in a half-mile radius from the entrance to the terminal building in a bid to beat so-called "kiss-and-fly" charges in the official drop-off zone.

Research by the RAC, released this week, found that more than half of the country's busiest airports have raised drop-off fees in the last 12 months.

In Edinburgh, drivers face a £6 tariff for a 10-minute stay at a specific drop-off zone metres from the main terminal building.

Every minute beyond that allowance will cost them an extra £1.

A lay-by near a roundabout at Edinburgh Airport. There are four cars. The car closest to the camera is red. The cars further away are dark coloured, either black or grey.
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A lay-by near a roundabout at Edinburgh Airport was almost full

Instead, drivers here look to beat the system, waiting in nooks and crannies along Eastfield Road for a message that their passengers have arrived.

They then drive a few hundred metres towards the Moxy or Hilton hotels and pick them up as they leave the airport complex, exiting hastily to avoid risking a fine for parking on double yellow lines.

Close to the Moxy, next to a farm gate by a grass verge, Caroline O'Brien, 52, is waiting in a lay-by for her husband and children after they returned from a holiday to Paris.

She says she had previously been charged £24 for under 30 minutes in the drop-off zone and decided not to take any chances this time.

"You don't know if the plane is going to be early or late in and I don't want them to be standing around," she says.

"For pick-up and drop-off, I think a couple of pounds [would be fair]. You're only there a few minutes for them to get their cases and then right back in the car and away again."

A general view of the entrance to the pick-up and drop-off zone at Edinburgh Airport. A blue sign advertising the zone is over the top of the road and states their are four lanes. Underneath each lane marker on the sign is a black screen with green writing featuring the word "spaces".
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The pickup and drop-off zone at Edinburgh Airport does not inform drivers about fees on their approach

Drivers approaching via Eastfield Road pass three roundabouts on the way into the main terminal, the closest of which leads them on to a one-way system which means they have to pass through the drop-off zone.

There is no signage on the approach to inform them of the charges, however there is when they are already inside the drop-off zone.

Drivers pay once they exit the drop-off area.

Edinburgh Airport is among those to have increased their prices in the last year

London Gatwick, Bristol, Leeds Bradford, Southampton and Stansted charged the top rate of £7 in the RAC survey.

Edinburgh is level with London Heathrow, Birmingham, Liverpool John Lennon and Glasgow in charging £6 for the initial drop off.

By contrast, at nine of the 10 busiest airports in the European Union there are no drop-off fees.

Rontom Tschopp, 32, from Switzerland, had just dropped a friend off at the terminal but was unaware there would be a charge for doing so.
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Rontom Tschopp said there were no drop-off charges at his local airport in Switzerland

He says his local airport, in Basel, did not charge for the same service.

He says: "I was a bit flabbergasted to be honest, because we don't have that in Switzerland.

"I think it creates a form of aversion to do the little things like drop off your friends. If I had known about the fees, we probably wouldn't have had such a heartfelt goodbye, it would have been: 'No, go now, there's extra fees'."

Edinburgh Airport does have other road links with the city centre through bus services, while the tram network also stops just outside.

It also has a free drop-off zone about half a mile (0.8km) from the main terminal building, across the tram line and near a car rental service.

Drivers can park there for 30 minutes free of charge, but it costs £10 up to an hour after that and £18 for between one and three hours.

Up another side street, near a vacant commercial business, Shiela McPheely is waiting to collect her sisters from their holiday in Albufeira in Portugal.

She says the cost of the drop-off zone is "appalling" and is planning to pick her sisters up at the free drop-off point, despite both having mobility issues.

"It's just greedy. You pay enough for your flights and when you get in there, you get a tea or a coffee, so they are getting money from you that way," Sheila, 79, says.

"There is a bit you can park in that is free, but that is all very well if you are young and fit, but one of my sisters has a sore back, the other one is waiting for a hip operation, so it's difficult for them."

Back inside the charged drop-off area, a multi-storey car park provides a roof and shade from the warm afternoon sun.

Gavin Marshall, 45, has been waiting for some time for his in-laws to arrive on a flight from London, before driving them back to Stirling.

He says he had not noticed the charge before he parked up.

He says: "It's a bit extortionate, £1 per minute is a bit of a joke."

"The flat £6 I think is fair, this £1 per minute seems a bit silly, it's a bit much."

Dean Carse said the charges made each journey £6 more expensive for customers in his taxi

Meanwhile, taxi driver Dean Carse, 31, says the charge has an impact on customers.

He says: "Every journey is £6 more expensive.

"I pay it, but I get it back off the customer, which is ridiculous, it goes from the customer to me to the airport.

"The airport spin it like they care about pollution, but they don't. They're a business and they want to make money."

Edinburgh Airport declined to comment when contacted by BBC News, but said that a free drop-off area was available, external.

They added that passengers could choose whether to use the free or paid areas.

The industry body, Airports UK, said all hubs offered free drop-off options further from the terminals.

It said "park and ride" facilities where people can leave their car and take a bus to the airport were provided.

A Police Scotland spokesperson said it regularly gave "advice" to motorists in the airport complex, but was unable to be specific on what that was.

They added: "Where necessary, appropriate action will be taken."

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Heathrow has kept its drop-off charge at £6 for a year or so, but no doubt that will increase quite soon.

However, parking in the short-stay car park is extremely expensive, with prices of £7.50 for 15-30 minutes.

I was behind a couple today who paid £18.50 for just over 90 minutes.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2025 9:13 am 
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Heathrow has kept its drop-off charge at £6 for a year or so, but no doubt that will increase quite soon.

However, parking in the short-stay car park is extremely expensive, with prices of £7.50 for 15-30 minutes.

I was behind a couple today who paid £18.50 for just over 90 minutes.



somebody has to pay for that third runway :wink:

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Can you believe that the 3rd runway is going to cross the M25? :shock:

What utter chaos that is going to cause anyone who uses that motorway. #-o

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Sussex wrote:
Can you believe that the 3rd runway is going to cross the M25? :shock:

What utter chaos that is going to cause anyone who uses that motorway. #-o

When you say cross do you mean go over it like in Paris Charles de gaulle airport?


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Will there be traffic lights? :lol:


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Will there be traffic lights? :lol:



well it'll be a lot cheaper than the original plans to move the M25

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Sussex wrote:
Can you believe that the 3rd runway is going to cross the M25? :shock:

What utter chaos that is going to cause anyone who uses that motorway. #-o

When you say cross do you mean go over it like in Paris Charles de gaulle airport?

Yes.

They are building a tunnel for the likes of you and me.

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