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Cracking piece on PHTM's website

Not because it's particularly interesting in the national context. But because it contextualises Fife Council's decision a couple of years ago to require a 'fire extinguisher location sticker' on the dashboard

And which requirement was only communicated to the trade via the small print of an emailed document that it's subsequently become clear even officials and councillors didn't read themselves

But the subsequent lack of such a sticker during a vehicle inspection would mean removal of plate, a £100 retest fee, and subsequent suspension hearing before councillors (depending on which day of the week it is ).

And also one of the things used to gaslight and demonise the trade via the local press etc.

Anyway, maybe more to the point is that although it now seems to be fairly common in England NOT to require a fire extinguisher in the vehicle, I don't think it's the same up here.

But now Scotland's biggest licensing authority in terms of numbers is removing the fire extinguisher requirement.

So, and consistent with what I suggested at the time, the Glasgow case here maybe underlines that Fife Council's decision a couple of years ago actually increased danger to passengers. Of course, Fife Council would make the case that if the driver has become unconscious then helping passengers locate the fire extinguisher could potentially save the driver. Well, maybe that is a theoretical possibility. But I'd guess the danger posed to passengers maybe outweighs the potential benefits?

Who knows, but at least it would have been good to actually discuss those possibilities in Fife, as opposed to foisting it on the trade via smallprint in a lengthy document.


GLASGOW TO REMOVE FIRE EXTINGUISHERS FROM PRIVATE HIRE CARS AND TAXIS

https://www.phtm.co.uk/news/8946/phtm-n ... -and-taxis

Glasgow City Council is set to scrap a decades-old rule forcing taxi and private hire drivers to carry fire extinguishers. This follows a campaign by the Scottish Private Hire Association (SPHA) highlighting that the requirements actually pose safety risks.

The change is part of a major overhaul of Glasgow’s taxi and private hire licensing conditions. However, while the wider policy review introduces sweeping updates across the sector, it is the removal of the mandatory fire extinguishers that marks a major victory for trade reformers who have fought for years to align Scottish licensing with modern safety standards.

For years, local authorities across Scotland have universally mandated that licensed vehicles carry fire fighting equipment. The SPHA has long argued that this requirement is not only fundamentally flawed but introduces unnecessary risks to drivers and the travelling public alike.

"Get Out, Stay Out, Call 999"

The driving force behind the policy change is a push to replace outdated rules with evidence-based safety practices. Under current guidelines from national fire bodies, drivers without firefighting training are actively discouraged from attempting to tackle vehicle blazes.

Eddie Grice, General Secretary of the SPHA, welcomed the shift in perspective, stating: "The primary purpose of an extinguisher in a vehicle should only ever be as an aid to escape, not as a tool to fight a fire. In practice, forcing an untrained driver to tackle a vehicle fire is minimal in benefit and maximum in risk. National safety guidance is explicit by saying if a vehicle catches fire, you get the occupants out quickly and to a safe place. You do not open the bonnet and you do not attempt to extinguish an engine fire yourself. The instruction is simple. Get out, stay out, and call 999."

The SPHA’s campaign has heavily relied on aligning Scottish practices with evolving UK standards. In England, major licensing authorities, such as Southampton and Milton Keynes, have recently dismantled their extinguisher requirements. This followed clear warnings from insurance bodies that claims could be invalidated if an amateur attempted to fight a fire, alongside updated Best Practice Guidance from the Department for Transport (DfT) and the National Fire Chiefs Council (NFCC).

Beyond the immediate fire risks, the physical requirement to carry the equipment has caused practical issues for operators. Securing heavy extinguishers often forces vehicle owners to drill directly into fascia panels, bulkheads, or frames. The SPHA pointed out that this structural modification causes permanent damage to the vehicle and risks puncturing hidden wiring or vital electrical systems.

A National Campaign for Uniformity:

While Glasgow’s decision marks a watershed moment, the SPHA emphasises that this is part of a much larger, coordinated effort spanning multiple local authorities and national legislative discussions. "Eliminating this flawed requirement incrementally, authority by authority, is an incredibly impractical way to manage a transport sector," Grice explained. "Unless all councils act simultaneously, we simply create a patchwork of inconsistent rules. That is why the SPHA has been pushing this issue not just in individual committee rooms, but at the national legislative level.

"We are campaigning for fully unified national vehicle standards to guarantee regulatory consistency and safety across the entirety of Scotland."

Overhauling Outdated Conditions

The removal of the extinguishers forms part of a broader modernisation of Glasgow's licensing regime. At meetings held in late 2025 and early 2026, the council's Licensing Section established dedicated Working Groups to completely review conditions that had sat untouched for a decade and a half.

The SPHA was heavily involved throughout this process, securing a seat on the Private Hire Car Working Group alongside council enforcement officers, Police Scotland and select trade representatives to meticulously draft the new framework.

Following a series of summits in the City Chambers between February and April 2026, a comprehensive list of revised conditions was generated. Beyond the fire extinguisher deletion, the secondary updates to the licensing conditions include updates to vehicle operator minimum ages, the use of CCTV, installing protective screens in private hire cars, conditions on vehicle modifications and streamlining rules on taximeters in PHCs.

The final draft of revised conditions was issued to the working groups late last month, with no further amendments sought by the trade. Glasgow City Council's Licensing and Regulatory Committee approved the changes on 10 June 2026 and they will take effect on 1st September.

For the SPHA, however, the successful removal of the fire extinguisher rule serves as a powerful precedent for what targeted, legally-grounded trade representation can achieve for driver safety. Mr Grice concluded: "The campaign continues. We hope to see this same change now take place around the country and our association will continue working to achieve moves towards greater uniformity of standards across the board".

To be fair, although the SPHA's case above is very well made, it doesn't of course address Fife Council's rationale of potentially saving the driver if he's become incapacitated. But it would have been nice to have discussed the issues rather than the sticker requirement being presented by the council as a fait accompli - as far as I can make out, simply a decision made by a manager in the workshop where the cars are tested

A couple of caveats - it's not a done deal yet, obviously, so my thread title is maybe a tad misleading. I would have included the word 'set' after 'Glasgow' if there had been room, thus:

'Glasgow set to be first in Scotland to remove fire extinguishers'

And, of course, maybe PHTM's headline is a tad misleading too, because presumably fire extinguishers would still be optional, rather than mandatory. But not banned from vehicles altogether

You can't rationalize a bonkers policy.

But the answer is quite simple: you grab his arms and haul him out.

In my other life, I often attend meetings with very senior fire officers, and they say if there is a fire or smoke in the car, then run for the hills and let the motor burn, burn, burn.

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IDFIMH

Especially if it's an ev or hybrid !

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lack of modern legislation is the iceberg sinking the titanic of the transport sector

They absolutely depise these vehicles.

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IDFIMH

Our council removed the need for a fire extinguisher a coupe of years ago, but transport still insist on one as well a high viz vest and a warning triangle.