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I must firstly correct you (yet again) Mr Wayne Casey is the Administration Officer for the NTA and has held that position for some time.

Secondly any association represents its membership through democratic practices ........... No association claims to represent none members although in some circumstance it may be pointed out that the whole trade may benefit from its activities.

So it is not the responsibility of any association to ensure that non members are considered when forming proposals.

Councils may, when they consider it in the public's interest, attach conditions to a licence.

Do you consider that a council who has deregulated numbers but only allows WAV to be licensed to be acting illegally?

I have explained in the previous post how your witch hunt against Wayne is inaccurate with regard what benefits his or his business and what doesn't so I think your statements should be either collaborated or rescinded.

Mick Pollard

B. Lucky

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You want to get your facts straight mate. Wayne casey is acting secretary of the NTA. You belong to the NTA, who is its secretary?



Good, then why hasn't the undemocratic practice of an illegal condition in Carlisle "EVER" been discussed by you and your cronies in the NTA???? It's alright discussing councils who deregulate nunbers but when it comes to councils implementing illegal conditions of license that affect 60% of the hackney carriage trade in Carlisle then thats taboo is it? Why dont you concentrate on the focal point of whether the condition is "illegal" instead pussy footing about like a polical pygmy?



The National taxi association says it represents the "Taxi trade". It doesn't say it represents "half" the Taxi trade? Therefore you guys cant pick and choose which part of the Taxi trade you represent and at what time and at what place? The NTA condones councils making illegal conditions, they have proven that by their actions in Carlisle and you are part of the NTA and you are now trying to justify their actions by offering your own warped interpretation of the facts. I havent heard the NTA ever say the condition in Carlisle is illegal have you? I didn't hear Mr Conyon say it and I haven't heard Mr Degan say it, maybe we could hear you or Mr Casey say it? But we won't hold our breath because you havent got the balls to say it and that is why you and you kind are a relic of the past and should be sent out to pasture.

There is only one fact and that in this sorry saga and that is Carlisle council has an unlawful condition which ostracises 60% of the Carlisle hackney carriage trade. You have stated its ok to apply an illegal condition if it suits the general public, I think most people outside of your brainwashed circle of friends will view that statement as preposterous?

I must admit, you certainly are a priceless individual, when you say stuff taxi drivers and the law, If the condition benefits the public then thats ok, lol?

You haven't even demonstrated that excluding 60% of hackney carriage vehicles from the Main Taxi rank is a help of hindrance to the public, so how can you conclude that the exclusion helps the public. One would assume starving the public from the full benefits of a taxi service is counter productive but obviously not in your eyes.

I suppose you conveniently disregard the fact that it's against the law to apply a condition to a hackney carriage vehicle license prohibiting it to ply for hire on an specific Taxi rank in the licensed area?

But as per usual your not concerned about the law.



Are councils allowed to attach "illegal" conditions to a license. I don't suppose you would know about that, being a member of the NTA.?

Considering I posted the Maud case, I find it remarkable that you're still living in self denial of the Law?

Regards

JD

Where there is a admin officer there is, I believe, no requirement for a secretary.

I do not belong to the NTA either ........... nor do they belong to me.



Are you suggesting that the NTA should form Council policies.

The 60% of the trade in Carlisle, of whom you mention, excluded themselves from the rank by choosing to purchase a saloon or are you suggesting they were not aware of this condition when they made their own decision.

How much would they have shouted if they had restricted saloons and forced all new licence applications into WAVs ............. you choose to ignore this point.



I have never heard you say anything other than the condition was illegally imposed by Carlisle City Council ................ so why don't you focus your attention on the people who made the decision and not those who choose to work under it.



I doubt you have spoken to more than 5 aggrieved drivers regarding this situation.

I accept the fact that some would consider themselves aggrieved but JD these people would complain more if conditions attached stated WAV only for new applications ................ but you choose to ignore the fact that that very condition is attached to licenses all over the country.

Indeed many of my members, forced by my council to purchase a WAV would have loved the opportunity to put on a saloon but they accept the fact there was a reason for this policy .............. I put it to you that the majority of drivers in Carlisle accept the fact they have the benefit of choice.



Oh by the way I am not a member of the NTA ............ my local association is but personally I am not.

This crusade against the NTA is unjustified and only being undertaken in an attempt to ruin the reputation of one of the organisations which could disrupt your personal vendetta against the Taxi trade with your new buddies at the NCC?

Mick Pollard

B. Lucky

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Well Tim Gray has been the secretary of the NTA for some time but you wouldn't think so. I'm surprised you didn't know that, then again, maybe you did?



I'm not suggesting anything of the sort lol. The NTA should look after Taxi drivers first and foremost and that means "all Taxi drivers it purports to represent".



I'm not even going to answer this because its not about excluding oneself, the condition is "illegal" so the question of exclusion doesn't even come into it, and I am very surprised YOU "CANNOT" SEE THAT?

This is not about a campaign to victimise Wayne Casey, I think Wayne is a half decent guy he just happens to have been one of several people who could and should have made this public. He has the opportunity to voice his opinion in several mediums, that the condition is unlawful. Instead he chose to let the situation perpetuate knowing it was unlawful. The whole point which you can't grasp is that the Condition is UNLAWFUL and as such the National Taxi association should have said so as soon as they new it was unlawful?

The fact remains they never and under the circumstances they have to live with the repercussions of their actions.

Regards

JD

I posted this on the other thread but I think it fits quite nicely here.


So the boys running the 'hood' aka the CTA/NTA have got caught with their fingers stuck in the till and surprise, surprise, GA can’t see it.

Have a wee look around GA. Oh and while you are at it, why don’t ask CC about Mr. Irving and his somewhat dubious background. Now how does that old saying go; ‘if you can’t do the time don’t do the crime but you can run CC's taxi organisation (CTA)’…. I know how you are a real stickler that everyone should be as ‘fit, and as proper’ as you claim to be.

Now let me get this right, so far CC is - secretary/administrator/puppet master of the NTA and CTA while running the family Radio Company with council provided exclusive Taxi Rank hoping to re-restrict Carlisle.

Of course GA, this is all for the good of the trade, and you GA, believe this to be the case, no vested interest here

I love guys like you GA


BTW CC, I bet that rank cost you a fair chunk

Oh, and how does Mr. T fit into all of this?

I get the feeling he's in here somewhere even if it's just immoral support
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Maybe indeed, but if you contact Mr Tim Gray I'm sure it would be hugely beneficial to the argument.



Is it not the case that in Brighton there is a proposal that certain HC are excluded from all ranks as a condition of licence?

You have not commented on this exclusion or included it in your witch hunt of trade representatives who supposedly allow illegal conditions. Is that because Mark Durrell is possibly a friend of yours.



Yeah yeah, JD whatever you say ............. the simple fact that you wrote a thread on this very forum under the heading "wayne casey's exclusive taxi rank in Carlisle" suggests that the attack was always intended to be personal against Mr Casey. The Lynch Mob better known to us as JD, TDO and Sussex have grabbed a rope and headed full force into Carlisle, it absolutely stinks, just like knackered drains.

The intervention of Mr Knowfuckall and his lack of coherent argument further reinforces the typical mental state of those who believe that deregulation leads to a better service to the customer without even experiencing it.

Mick Pollard

B. Lucky

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Skull on TDO

TF pi$$ed on his chips.

The rope is getting shorter and shorter and shorter youth

Quick Survey

Does anyone apart from GA and JD actually think this conversation is going anywhere?

I vote No.

And congratulations Captain Cab for biting your tongue, unless your in Barbados on holiday.

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