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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:43 am 
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I will be interested to see the faces of the magistrates when a schedule 6 chap tells them he really doesn't care who drives his £100,000-200,000 stretch hummer. :^o


Aha Mr S but thats clearly not the case, it was stated by s6 specialist that the driver must have a PCV license and this is required by the insurers, so therefore not just anyone could drive these beasts!! Perhaps Mr A Class could just clarify wether or not he just forgot to mention that fact as im assuming that would be the case??? Afterall it was both of these posters whom got the ball rolling on this along with 1 or 2 others i believe!

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it was stated by s6 specialist that the driver must have a PCV license and this is required by the insurers,

So the punter hires a vehicle and is then giving a list of drivers that they can use to drive it. :?

The driver then gets paid by the customer.

The driver is then gaining a financial advantages in terms of wages i.e. 'hire and reward'.

That 'hire and reward' is being gained in an un-licensed vehicle.

Is that where we are at the mo please?

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We appear to be going around in circles here, all the answers to your questions are up here for the world to see, but you will still read it the way you lot see fit to go with your theory that most limo ops are unlicensed and acting against the law, which fortunately is NOT the case :D

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We appear to be going around in circles here, all the answers to your questions are up here for the world to see, but you will still read it the way you lot see fit to go with your theory that most limo ops are unlicensed and acting against the law, which fortunately is NOT the case :D

Well we are only going around in circles cos no-one will answer the questions.

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Perhaps you should look at this from the view that the driver is not "hired" by the person using the vehicle but "employed " by them on a short term contract.

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Some of these "so called" Sheduled 6 operators, also run 8 seat limos.

And are not licensed, because there local authority won't give them house room. If you can't get licensed? what gives you the right to trade?

7 day contract (i'm told) was drummed up by an aged limo op. But how many stick to the rules of the 7 day contract???? NONE would be my guess.

So why do they trade? Legal my ar*e They spout there expensive legal brief to everyone, who used a loophole to operate to. As for there 8 seater limos these are also un-licensed.

Law breakers.

If there going to cut corners to run Udrive vehicles, what other corners are being cut?

An MOT once a year is required, but there are even operators running around with people in, on trade plates. These limo op's are no more than con men, taking the food from your legit op's table. The sooner these legal holes are plugged, the better.

Passenger safety is Compromised by a vehicle that does not have to be inspected.

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Hello all

I've just been sitting back & reading all the posts on here, over the last few days.

The 13 seaters that have been COIF. well done to those owners & the money they have spent.

Owners of over 14 seaters / S-6 Conversions should fight their own battles with the government, and not expect the 8-seater companies to stand behind them. Some of these companies with bigger vehicles are scare mongering the 8-seater limousine owners in to standing behind them.

I am happy to carry 8 passengers ONLY?

I hope one day all limousines are made to carry 8 ONLY for safety reasons.

Why should compaines running larger vehicles be treated different, to the smaller ones. So many run as they please or run under S6 rule.
what will the next loop hole be I wonder ? Still companies will spend thousands of pounds trying to use the back door method.
It will be interesting to see what happens when the S-6 is closed. [-o<

I hope this meets with your approval kermit and you may now look at the real issues.
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limo man wrote:
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I've just been sitting back & reading all the posts on here, over the last few days.


The 13 seaters that have been COIF well done to them boys & the money you spent well done.

All over 14 seaters / S-6 Conversion fight they own battle with the government & As for the companies with the big things you should stop scare mongering the 8-seater boys in to standing behind you.
I am happy to carry 8 ONLY?

I hope one day all limos are made to carry 8 ONLY for safety.

Why should you be treat special because you have a big limousine & run as you please or you run under S6 what will the next loop hole you spend thousands of pounds on. When the S-6 is closed. [-o< Limo man


And it's coming :wink:

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limo man wrote:
Hello all

I've just been sitting back & reading all the posts on here, over the last few days.


The 13 seaters that have been COIF well done to them boys & the money you spent well done.

All over 14 seaters / S-6 Conversion fight they own battle with the government & As for the companies with the big things you should stop scare mongering the 8-seater boys in to standing behind you.
I am happy to carry 8 ONLY?

I hope one day all limos are made to carry 8 ONLY for safety.

Why should you be treat special because you have a big limousine & run as you please or you run under S6 what will the next loop hole you spend thousands of pounds on. When the S-6 is closed. [-o<

Limo man


It is apparent by your post and the way it's written that you don't have a very good education my limo friend, Perhaps this explains your ignorance towards the schedule 6 and the safety of limo's as you clearly have not read up on this, Limos are one of the safest forms of transport as you should be aware!! Yes i agree with you there are some limo ops out there who flout the safety rules, as in all trades but for someone like you to come on here and spout your 8 seater crud is truly amazing, however i will also admit im an 8 seater limo op but i can understand why some people choose to carry over 8 in a safe and legal way, now can i suggest you do your homework before you go making a real fool of yourself and get your spelling and grammar sorted out as currently it makes a mockery of your post :D

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Uncle Buck wrote:

And it's coming :wink:


We have been hearing this one for a long time now, and to be honest its starting to bore us now, you seem like a half sensible person but i cant quite understand what your gripe is??? You say Law breakers in your previous post too, well i should be careful if i were you as i adhere to the law of the land and so do many others whom post within this site!!! If your going to make bold statements such as this then get your facts right please as not all limo ops are law breakers as you should well know,or even just reword your post to read as such :D As for the rest of your post can i ask how long you have traded for as it would appear that your knowledge is somewhat lacking in substance and with people such as you and limo man in the limo world what hope is their for any of us!! Ah but you only carry 8 so your safe, well think on :D

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kermit2482 wrote:
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And it's coming :wink:


We have been hearing this one for a long time now, and to be honest its starting to bore us now, you seem like a half sensible person but i cant quite understand what your gripe is??? You say Law breakers in your previous post too, well i should be careful if i were you as i adhere to the law of the land and so do many others whom post within this site!!! If your going to make bold statements such as this then get your facts right please as not all limo ops are law breakers as you should well know,or even just reword your post to read as such :D As for the rest of your post can i ask how long you have traded for as it would appear that your knowledge is somewhat lacking in substance and with people such as you and limo man in the limo world what hope is their for any of us!! Ah but you only carry 8 so your safe, well think on :D



Calm down there kermit, my point is this, if you can not get licensed for hire and reward (no matter how you dress it up or tag it, that's what it is) then what right do they have to trade? Would you jump in an un licensed taxi? would you have a tv with out a licence? would you drink and pay for booze in an un licensed pub? go target shooting with out a gun licence?

It's no different at all, no matter what some brief says. It's just another back door method of operation. Call it what you like, that's all it is.

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Calm down there kermit, my point is this, if you can not get licensed for hire and reward (no matter how you dress it up or tag it, that's what it is) then what right do they have to trade? Would you jump in an un licensed taxi? would you have a tv with out a licence? would you drink and pay for booze in an un licensed pub? go target shooting with out a gun licence?

It's no different at all, no matter what some brief says. It's just another back door method of operation. Call it what you like, that's all it is.


But until such times as all the facts come out about why such an operator who was running on schedule 6 was taken to court and then the matter thrown out are totally available, people like yourselves are only going on what appears to be assumptions or have you not read about the case that was recently dismissed??

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I don't really care for the out come, that's not the point i'm trying to make.

If they can't get there vehicles licensed, then why do they think they still have the right to trade?

If there not licensed, there trading illegally, Oh un less they operate under 7 day contract. But how many limousine operators adhere to the strict requirements of this other loophole thats about to close? Or will these top briefs plead for another years grace? until such a time that illegal operators get there way? lets face facts, La's e.t.c. have had there noses rubbed in it for to long. It's the likes of loophole limo op's that cause all this grief. If they abide to the law, then the limousine trade would not be tarred in such a way.

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Uncle Buck wrote:
I don't really care for the out come.


That says it all really :roll:

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ARR now your just bending the point of my post.

So what your saying then, is you welcome illegal operators!! That truley says it all to me. I guess once you have made your bed................!

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