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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:40 am 
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Oh and tone, from your picture you look like you might be the only person left to benefit, from a cap on plates.

I hope it was worth it. :-|

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Skull i am not a plate holder i am a driver.I have had a plate but it did not work out for me.I appreciate what you say about Barron's but if Dundee doses not restrict numbers we will all be fecked drivers and plate holders.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 1:34 pm 
Wasn't it the trade who wanted the cap lifting in the 1st place? If that's the case you haven't got a cat in hells chance of getting it back in place.


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Nigel wrote:
Wasn't it the trade who wanted the cap lifting in the 1st place? If that's the case you haven't got a cat in hells chance of getting it back in place.


One man wanted the cap lifted........Chief Exec of Dundee Private Hire


http://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/opinions/2005csih30.html


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Skull wrote:
Stationtone, once you have landed your cap on plates, what then? The life of a taxi baron businessman renting out his taxi to cabbies, who can't get a licence? Then waiting to sell out to some mug, prepared to pawn the family silver, to buy into a market, about to be de-restricted?


No doubt about it, you are a man among men. :roll:


What will happen is that the over supply of taxis will be cemented in place until demand rises to match it.

What is really needed here is taxis to leave the market because of market forces.

There should be no licence transfers allowed, as stated in the Law.

There should be provisions put in place to allow licence holders to mothball their licences until the market picks up. People could leave the market temporarily, knowing that when demand increases they can easily re-enter it.

Replacing the cap is the mindset of an idiot. It's just cabbies doing what cabbies always do. Falling back to old ways. Which have no place in a modern free market economy.

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Jasbar wrote:
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Stationtone, once you have landed your cap on plates, what then? The life of a taxi baron businessman renting out his taxi to cabbies, who can't get a licence? Then waiting to sell out to some mug, prepared to pawn the family silver, to buy into a market, about to be de-restricted?


No doubt about it, you are a man among men. :roll:


What will happen is that the over supply of taxis will be cemented in place until demand rises to match it.

What is really needed here is taxis to leave the market because of market forces.

There should be no licence transfers allowed, as stated in the Law.

There should be provisions put in place to allow licence holders to mothball their licences until the market picks up. People could leave the market temporarily, knowing that when demand increases they can easily re-enter it.

Replacing the cap is the mindset of an idiot. It's just cabbies doing what cabbies always do. Falling back to old ways. Which have no place in a modern free market economy.


Proof positive that you two aint got a f*cking clue what your on about. :roll:

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Jasbar wrote:
Skull wrote:
Stationtone, once you have landed your cap on plates, what then? The life of a taxi baron businessman renting out his taxi to cabbies, who can't get a licence? Then waiting to sell out to some mug, prepared to pawn the family silver, to buy into a market, about to be de-restricted?


No doubt about it, you are a man among men. :roll:


What will happen is that the over supply of taxis will be cemented in place until demand rises to match it.

What is really needed here is taxis to leave the market because of market forces.

There should be no licence transfers allowed, as stated in the Law.

There should be provisions put in place to allow licence holders to mothball their licences until the market picks up. People could leave the market temporarily, knowing that when demand increases they can easily re-enter it.

Replacing the cap is the mindset of an idiot. It's just cabbies doing what cabbies always do. Falling back to old ways. Which have no place in a modern free market economy.


Proof positive that you two aint got a f*cking clue what your on about. :roll:

CC



The only bar to being a cabby, should be quality controls. A standard of professionalism required to ply your trade - The End.

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Put the cap back on and it won't take a single cab off the road.
Cabs will just end up double shifted and PH will increase.
When the equality act comes through, the cap won't matter anyway.
Your council won't be able to refuse anyone with a WAV, not while enough saloons are still plated.

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gusmac wrote:
Put the cap back on and it won't take a single cab off the road.
Cabs will just end up double shifted and PH will increase.
When the equality act comes through, the cap won't matter anyway.
Your council won't be able to refuse anyone with a WAV, not while enough saloons are still plated.


Presuming you have a special gift and you know what the equality bill will say?

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captain cab wrote:
gusmac wrote:
Put the cap back on and it won't take a single cab off the road.
Cabs will just end up double shifted and PH will increase.
When the equality act comes through, the cap won't matter anyway.
Your council won't be able to refuse anyone with a WAV, not while enough saloons are still plated.


Presuming you have a special gift and you know what the equality bill will say?

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No more gift than anyone else on here.....

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captain cab wrote:
gusmac wrote:
Put the cap back on and it won't take a single cab off the road.
Cabs will just end up double shifted and PH will increase.
When the equality act comes through, the cap won't matter anyway.
Your council won't be able to refuse anyone with a WAV, not while enough saloons are still plated.


Presuming you have a special gift and you know what the equality bill will say?

CC


I'll take a wild guess and say it will have words like “equality” in it. You do know what equality means. Don't you CC?


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I'll take a wild guess and say it will have words like “equality” in it. You do know what equality means. Don't you CC?


:roll:


Errm, my guess is its for the user......not the owner.

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gusmac wrote:
Put the cap back on and it won't take a single cab off the road.
Cabs will just end up double shifted and PH will increase.
When the equality act comes through, the cap won't matter anyway.
Your council won't be able to refuse anyone with a WAV, not while enough saloons are still plated.


Most Cabs in Dundee are double shifted and we have never had more ph .We needed to do something.


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yip. we should not pay the license fees that are due on 31st of may then council would be fecked :lol:


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dundeecabbie2009 wrote:
yip. we should not pay the license fees that are due on 31st of may then council would be fecked :lol:


It is the faster, most efficient method in sorting the saga once and for all !

On 31st May all Dundee Operator licences are due, ir would never happen but, if that one show of solidarity was implemented then,and only then would the Trade in Dundee have the upper hand.
If this was properly conducted with sound legal advice then, i an certain we would be on a winner. Of course DDC would attempt to retreive the plates, (after all it's their property) but, if an interdict if served upon them (as Dundee Private Hire did} to prevent them fron doing so,then my dear comrades,let the war begin.

Legal action from DDC would ensue and, that is when their fate is sealed !
Lets be honest boys ! The National press and media would descend upon this unprecedented action and the political pressure (combined with the embarassment) would certsinly favour the brave. Ah ! i hear all you Saloon Operators say. Why should i risk losing my Saloon Hackney Plate ?
It would never happen necause it would never reach the inside of a court !
DCC would be under immense pressure from The Scottish Government to end this challenge immediately. That is where the deals are done, on the Court steps !!
The status quo remains regarding all Licence holders.

The City is capped.

The Trade is governed propely.

The Cab Enforcement Officers are replaced with 24nr accessible, dedicated Traffic Police.

The Procurator Fiscal enforces the law regarding Private Hire Vehicles.

A 3 yearly survey is conducted continually to assess the levels of supply and demand.

The Taxi card scheme is accessible to all.

Some form of financial incentive or rebate is offered to the WAV Operators to enable them to compete with Saloons.

All of this in writng of course and, any additions requested from the Trade. IMO DDC would succumb to such actions and requests and like i previously stated....it will probably never happen !

Just one man's opinion on how to acheive harmony...........

Time to get myself ready to go in search of The Holy Grail..

A working Taxi Rank !!!!! :-k


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