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I didn't mention good will; I wrote goodwill & that was about a chip shop.

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Well I was talking about the general principle, rather than specific businesses, but if the above are run as cartels as well then the issues are the same.

And I thought you were about to tell us how much Brum plates were worth in the other thread?

But here's the crux of the matter. Above you said:

"but if you make a good go of it you sell the goodwill & business as a going concern!"

But as you know - and indeed alluded in your mention elsewhere of plate values in Brum - it's got feck all to do with 'making a good go of it' and everything to do with the council closing the market.

So are you saying you weren't making a good go of it when your plate was worth nothing?

And why are the plates that the cowboys and cheats operate worth the same as those making a good go of it?

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A Brum HCVL plate is currently worth about £400, if you can get it. And a bog roll is worth more than a Solihull HCVL plate.

And as for the chip shops, market stalls, independent bookies, gaming arcades etc,; why are restrictions put on how many of these businesses can open up in one High Street?

A High Street with 200 shop units would never be allowed to have 200 chips shops in it, nor 200 independent bookies, nor 200 gaming arcades, all in one High Street. It would be limited, the council wouldn't allow it to happen.

But HCVL aren't limited in many LAs & so chaos reign.

And of course I wasn't making a good go of it when HCVL plates were worth nowt in Brum; there was & still is no work to make any go of it at all!!

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Well planning is a slightly different issue, but if it's blatent profiteering then are you expecting me to agree with it?





Aye, like 200 people would want to open chip shops in the same street.



Like London?



Ah, when you said 'making a good go of it' I assumed you were talking about applying some business acumen, but what you clearly mean is that you think the world owes you a living and that your council should play God and make sure this happens.

And then 'make a go of it' by selling your plate

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That's the truth, but if you can't or don't believe that, it's your problem.

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Everything need palnning in some form or another, but then you're clearly not business minded or orientated.

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A bit rich for someone who needs a cartel to make a living

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What makes you think I didn't believe it?

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My point is even if they did, they wouldn't be allowed to. There have been may occasions when Brum licensing has refused licences for food outlets because the committee believed that there were already too many in the area, never mind the same street. The committee restricted!! So of course you would never get 200 in one High Street!! Why? Because of restricting numbers.

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How do you work that one out?

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How do you work that one out?[/quote]

Oh so you don't - make up your mind

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Different scenario; they are controlled by quality of driver & vehicle.

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Nobody has, does or will owe me a living. I work hard for little reward, as do all HC & PH drivers in Brum.

Between the first & second survey 55 HC plates & 299 PH plates were handed back to the council. That tells it's own story.

And with HCVL plates restricted after the fiirst survey, 55 plates still went back to the council because they were worth nowt.

I don't need a plate value; I have never had a free issue. But I could do with a decent job.

Don't forget Brum doubled its HC fleet from 1996 to 2007 to about 1450 & trebled it PH fleet in that time to 5200ish.

And before you ask, about 80%ish of the PH fleet only come out on weekend nights & the wife, brother, son use the car as a run-around for the rest of the week.

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That's a non-denial denial, which confirms that you can't work it out either.

Very similar to known knowns & known un-knowns.

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Ditto every LA in the UK, to a greater or lesser extent.

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