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 Post subject: Re: Highway Robbers!!
PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:54 pm 
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Greedy barstewards are just chancing their luck....Throwing about Exuberant prices then wait and see how much will stick.........Tw*ts... :x


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 Post subject: Re: Highway Robbers!!
PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:30 pm 
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Manchester has probably one of the highest amount of ''claims''. I know of at least two drivers who have claimed money for a rental ''cab'' whilst their own vehicle is being fixed.
These ''rental'' companies charge £150 PER DAY to provide these vehicles.
One case I know of the damage is nothing much and can be fixed in one week (maximum) but the cab driver has had a rental vehicle for at least 3 months...and still on going... more than £13,000 now and rising daily plus Solicitors charges ...

Who do you think pays for this ?...short answer is we do ...
Insurance companies are not charities...they run a business and the aim is to make a profit at the end of the year.

My own premium has gone from £1400 to £2600 in the last two years without any claims and with 9 years no claims one

driver only.

In Manchester a large number of cabs carry an advert in the back windscreen for a ''Claims co''...ring them if you have a

Fair comment Cheshire, but i don't claim with basic TPO insurance & £250 excess, Insurance companies want the best of all worlds, rapid to take your monies then crying huge claims when paying out, your line about them making a profit should be in bold print

claim !

Thats your answer mate.


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 Post subject: Re: Highway Robbers!!
PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:34 pm 
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bloodnock wrote:
Greedy barstewards are just chancing their luck....Throwing about Exuberant prices then wait and see how much will stick.........Tw*ts... :x


Nicely put bloodnock, they got the proverbial license to print money & make the rules as they go along!! Cheeky B_astards. =D>


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 Post subject: Re: Highway Robbers!!
PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:55 pm 
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It is highway robbery to many of us.....mine went up 20% this year ffs

However, a guy from PENK insurance did come on this website and give us reasons why taxi isurance was rising.....amongst the many was the fact that numerous large insurers have left the taxi market.......Brit Insurance was one and HSBC (which is short for gang of thieving b*stards) was another.

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 Post subject: Re: Highway Robbers!!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:42 am 
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You think taxi/ph insurance is bad I got quoted £2,200 to drive my car around the country without a plate on it ffs......... apparently driving without passengers is more likely to cause me to have an accident

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 Post subject: Re: Highway Robbers!!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:31 am 
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A long term client of mine was very upset about his renewal premium this month with LV of £1900. He has 3 years protected NCB. In May 2010 when insured with Aviva through TFP Schemes, a cyclist met with his open car door. He maintains it was open and she rode into, her version is that he opended it into her path. My client is an "old school" independent l hackney driver. The lady fell to the floor and he decided to take her to A&E, waited for her then took her home. No charge of course. Her husband rode the bike to check all was fine, it was.

In an attempt to seek a cheaper quote, I called TFP Schemes to get an update on the claim as we anticpated it would have been settled, maybe at a couple of grand for scratches and bruising. Wrong!!! Special damages to cyclist £12000, reimbursement of NHS Trust charges for treatment provided £8000. Third party solicitors costs, which are still outstanding and being challenged £17000!

Another client was hit by a drink driver at the end of September. His vehicle was a LWB Peugeot Expert Teepee he used mainly for airport transfers. He was provided with a VW Transporter as he needed 8 passenger seats with luggage room. £283.00 per day, plus VAT. He had the vehicle for 3 weeks!

The insurance companies are shouting foul but having been in the business for 30+ years, I do take the view that had insurance companies played fair in the past to properly compensate people without a fight, it would not have swung this way.

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 Post subject: Re: Highway Robbers!!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:12 am 
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2 Jobs wrote:
A long term client of mine was very upset about his renewal premium this month with LV of £1900. He has 3 years protected NCB. In May 2010 when insured with Aviva through TFP Schemes, a cyclist met with his open car door. He maintains it was open and she rode into, her version is that he opended it into her path. My client is an "old school" independent l hackney driver. The lady fell to the floor and he decided to take her to A&E, waited for her then took her home. No charge of course. Her husband rode the bike to check all was fine, it was.

In an attempt to seek a cheaper quote, I called TFP Schemes to get an update on the claim as we anticpated it would have been settled, maybe at a couple of grand for scratches and bruising. Wrong!!! Special damages to cyclist £12000, reimbursement of NHS Trust charges for treatment provided £8000. Third party solicitors costs, which are still outstanding and being challenged £17000!

Another client was hit by a drink driver at the end of September. His vehicle was a LWB Peugeot Expert Teepee he used mainly for airport transfers. He was provided with a VW Transporter as he needed 8 passenger seats with luggage room. £283.00 per day, plus VAT. He had the vehicle for 3 weeks!

The insurance companies are shouting foul but having been in the business for 30+ years, I do take the view that had insurance companies played fair in the past to properly compensate people without a fight, it would not have swung this way.


2 Jobs, its Big Bucks all round, but then again so is the premiums we pay! As a kid, my old fella used to say to me "how do you think these Insurance Companies own these big buildings in the city centre"?????


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 Post subject: Re: Highway Robbers!!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:22 am 
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Another client was hit by a drink driver at the end of September. His vehicle was a LWB Peugeot Expert Teepee he used mainly for airport transfers. He was provided with a VW Transporter as he needed 8 passenger seats with luggage room. £283.00 per day, plus VAT. He had the vehicle for 3 weeks!


Surely paying the drivers loss of earnings is cheaper than providing a vehicle ffs

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The insurance companies are shouting foul but having been in the business for 30+ years, I do take the view that had insurance companies played fair in the past to properly compensate people without a fight, it would not have swung this way.


I'm inclined to agree with this having had an insurance company try not to pay out on holiday insurance because I didn't declare that my father had diabetes. He died 3 days before we were due to fly. My father wasn't going with us but apparently my going on holiday was affected by his welfare therefore I should have declared his illness. It took 5 letters and a telephone call from my fathers G.P explaining that his diabetes had nothing to do with his death before they would pay out.

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 Post subject: Re: Highway Robbers!!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:14 pm 
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Surely paying the drivers loss of earnings is cheaper than providing a vehicle ffs


Toots you are right this would seem the logical and cheaper way forward. Problem is the info required to support LOE claims is notoriously difficult to get and of course the claims management companies don't get anything out of it, they make their profits from the rentals. 25 years ago, trying to get an insurance co to reimburse car hire costs was a nightmare. It wasn't until a court case in Wales I think in the mid 1990's that it became more straightforward. Back to my point, had insurance co's been fairer back along this scenario may not have got so out of hand.

I used to negotiate "uninsured loss" claims for clients and trying to get £50 compensation for a whiplash or the cost of a weeks car hire (at normal market rates) whilst repairs were done was like trying to get a Rabbi to eat a bacon sandwich.

Taximanchester, you are right. Insurance is big business but you could say the same about any large corporation. I am a capitilist by nature and welcome profit, but there is a wrong and a right way.

Unfortunately most of the scammers and fraudsters seem to live/operate in the larger urban areas. Consequently you can have a cab driver with an unblemished record in say Bradford or Manchester facing a huge premium cos his insurance company have to factor in to the premiums charged in the area the likelyhood of them getting stuffed through being unable to prove a fraud. I have a client who rear ended a van in Oldham with 4 non English speaking passengers and he swears the break lights weren't working. We all know driving too close etc but we do live in the real world.

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 Post subject: Re: Highway Robbers!!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:49 pm 
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toots wrote:
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Another client was hit by a drink driver at the end of September. His vehicle was a LWB Peugeot Expert Teepee he used mainly for airport transfers. He was provided with a VW Transporter as he needed 8 passenger seats with luggage room. £283.00 per day, plus VAT. He had the vehicle for 3 weeks!


Surely paying the drivers loss of earnings is cheaper than providing a vehicle ffs

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The insurance companies are shouting foul but having been in the business for 30+ years, I do take the view that had insurance companies played fair in the past to properly compensate people without a fight, it would not have swung this way.


I'm inclined to agree with this having had an insurance company try not to pay out on holiday insurance because I didn't declare that my father had diabetes. He died 3 days before we were due to fly. My father wasn't going with us but apparently my going on holiday was affected by his welfare therefore I should have declared his illness. It took 5 letters and a telephone call from my fathers G.P explaining that his diabetes had nothing to do with his death before they would pay out.


There we go again Toots Insurer's making their rules as they go along, what is of concern is so few Insurers, can then monopolize an area & charge what they like, for what is essentially a Legal requirement!


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 Post subject: Re: Highway Robbers!!
PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:05 pm 
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2 Jobs wrote:
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Surely paying the drivers loss of earnings is cheaper than providing a vehicle ffs


Toots you are right this would seem the logical and cheaper way forward. Problem is the info required to support LOE claims is notoriously difficult to get and of course the claims management companies don't get anything out of it, they make their profits from the rentals. 25 years ago, trying to get an insurance co to reimburse car hire costs was a nightmare. It wasn't until a court case in Wales I think in the mid 1990's that it became more straightforward. Back to my point, had insurance co's been fairer back along this scenario may not have got so out of hand.

I used to negotiate "uninsured loss" claims for clients and trying to get £50 compensation for a whiplash or the cost of a weeks car hire (at normal market rates) whilst repairs were done was like trying to get a Rabbi to eat a bacon sandwich.

Taximanchester, you are right. Insurance is big business but you could say the same about any large corporation. I am a capitilist by nature and welcome profit, but there is a wrong and a right way.

Unfortunately most of the scammers and fraudsters seem to live/operate in the larger urban areas. Consequently you can have a cab driver with an unblemished record in say Bradford or Manchester facing a huge premium cos his insurance company have to factor in to the premiums charged in the area the likelyhood of them getting stuffed through being unable to prove a fraud. I have a client who rear ended a van in Oldham with 4 non English speaking passengers and he swears the break lights weren't working. We all know driving too close etc but we do live in the real world.


Fair comments 2 jobs, it goes on with these fiddling B_stards, but generally speaking if there was no risk why would you need insurer's? I'm under the impression, Insurer's are targeting the taxi trade, cause they think we making plenty? :doubt:


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