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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:52 pm 
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Mr McNamara added: “She might have trouble getting a cab in the future and it won’t be because she’s black, it will be because she is stupid. I certainly won’t be stopping for her.”


Its a good job she wasn't in a wheelchair or going south of the river, because that would be another two stereotypes.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:55 pm 
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Are you suggesting that a black wheelchair-user going sarf of the river wouldn't be the most popular flag down for a London cabbie? :shock:


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Are you suggesting that a black wheelchair-user going sarf of the river wouldn't be the most popular flag down for a London cabbie? :shock:



perhaps :D

I'll also say that today is Friday and she apparently tweeted the taxi tweet on Tuesday.......exercise in mud raking I think.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:03 pm 
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Yes, let her stay - I want to see what's next. =D>

Well now I know what was next.......



.......Whats next?



Don't let her resign, dont sack her, she has to stay forever. =D>

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7294746.stm

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the comments make interesting reading

the implementation of 100% "WAV" fleets seems to have only benefited WAV producers....not WAV owners, or even wheelchair users

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:44 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
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the comments make interesting reading

the implementation of 100% "WAV" fleets seems to have only benefited WAV producers....not WAV owners, or even wheelchair users


It's no surprise really. Just proves you can lead the horse to water.......

Anyway, the vast majority of wheelchair users phone for a lift, they don't often use ranks and rarely flag taxis down in the street.
That is PH work by definition, regardless of whether it is done by a PH or HC.
So why were PH excluded from the Equality Act?

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:01 pm 
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gusmac wrote:

So why were PH excluded from the Equality Act?

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:24 pm 
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The biggest market for WAV use seems to be school runs, over recent years the disabled pupils are more integrated in the normal school population (i bet they get paid extra to take them) and at our lads last school there must have been a dozed WAV jobs daily, so thats 190+ days work per year....., id see the vehicles parked at base the rest of the time

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:42 am 
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Sussex wrote:
gusmac wrote:

So why were PH excluded from the Equality Act?

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Nonsense...its Simply because hacks can Hailed or taken at ranks and for that reason they need to have a higher percentage of "On Tap" WAVS..

If you have the benefit of time to be able to pre Book a Taxi or a PH then you also have the ability to plan ahead more to either use a firm who can supply a WAV or to book a firm you know that run WAVs in their fleet.

Besides...Ive transported several wheelchair clients without any need for a WAV...they have in every instance managed to sidle into the Saloon using their own Sidle Boards. The wheel chair fits fine in the boot.

Anything bigger than an Average wheel chair would need something much more specialised than your average WAV anyway....it would take a Specially adapted Vehicle for these big old Mobility Buggies, Indeed the type of Vehicle that only those lovely charity sponsored volunteer groups can afford.

The Government obviously recognised this and thats why PH are in the position they are in today..


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:30 am 
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I suspect it's more a case of convenience, both practically and politically.

Accessibility originated in the bigger cities which had Mandatory Orders (ie the tight-turning circle, which meant London-style cabs) or similar.

These were easily convertible to accomodate wheelchairs, thus politically it was an easy option, and financially it didn't impose much of a burden on the existing trade.

Thus imposing 100% taxis across the UK would seem the easier option rather than including PH, since the vast majority of UK taxis are servicing both the streets and the pre-booked market anyway, thus it wasn't really necessary to encompass PH to provide accessibility in either market.

Of course, where the taxis are saloons accessibility is a different kettle of fish altogether, hence the difficulties associated with the process and the legislation at the national level, which has been ongoing for maybe twenty years now.

I mean, has any council had the nerve to impose 100% WAVs where there's been a saloon fleet in situ?

Can't really think of any offhand, although I'm sure there are one or two.

But the different approaches to the issues depending on what's there already demonstrates that it's as much an issue of pragmatism than principle.

Similarly, many former 100% saloon areas now have a mixed fleet, but generally this has been achieved by only granting new licences to WAVs, which is again all about political expediency rather than principle.

By the same token, if a mixed fleet is as desirable as some make out then why aren't we seeing saloon taxis in the likes of Liverpool, Manchester and Edinburgh?

Again the answer is vested interests in the trade and thus political expediency for the decision makers.


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Nonsense...its Simply because hacks can Hailed or taken at ranks and for that reason they need to have a higher percentage of "On Tap" WAVS..

If you have the benefit of time to be able to pre Book a Taxi or a PH then you also have the ability to plan ahead more to either use a firm who can supply a WAV or to book a firm you know that run WAVs in their fleet.

Besides...Ive transported several wheelchair clients without any need for a WAV...they have in every instance managed to sidle into the Saloon using their own Sidle Boards. The wheel chair fits fine in the boot.

Anything bigger than an Average wheel chair would need something much more specialised than your average WAV anyway....it would take a Specially adapted Vehicle for these big old Mobility Buggies, Indeed the type of Vehicle that only those lovely charity sponsored volunteer groups can afford.

The Government obviously recognised this and thats why PH are in the position they are in today..


No PH needs to be WAV........your talking [edited by admin].
Sussex hit the nail right on the head.

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gusmac wrote:
Sussex hit the nail right on the head.


Well money is certainly a highly dominant factor, but I doubt if his allusion to corruption is well founded.

Unless of course he's able to proffer compelling evidence [-(


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Unless of course he's able to proffer compelling evidence [-(

Beyond reasonable doubt is 70% +, not 100%. :wink:

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Sussex wrote:
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Unless of course he's able to proffer compelling evidence [-(

Beyond reasonable doubt is 70% +, not 100%. :wink:


OK, let's see the 70% then :D


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