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 Post subject: Re: driving test
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:48 pm 
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I still have my full German licence to fall back on :D

Don't mention that or the fruit cake will come on this thread as well. :roll: :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: driving test
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:54 pm 
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You could all appeal to a magistrate,
I would expect new applicants to do this test, but not someone who has been doing the job for years


What if the new applicant has been a driving instructor or still is or has had a driving job of some description for years, I hate the way you decide it's good for the newbies but please don't make me do it :roll: It's like, I'm alright Jack, f*ck you type of attitude, shame on you Skippy :wink:


My Bubbles burst forever...I thought you was made Of Sugar and spice and all thing Nice toots....

But I had to go and hide behind my settee after I read the last line of your reply to Skippy.. :shock:


I'm only describing the kind of attitude it is and it is certainly not something I would actually say from my lips, heaven forbid O:) :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: driving test
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:56 pm 
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You could all appeal to a magistrate,
I would expect new applicants to do this test, but not someone who has been doing the job for years


Will you and me need to sit a Scottish Driving test Skip if the Indies win...as our old UK licence will only be good for driving south of Berwick. :-k


You only have to negotiate the one way system in Gala in under 1min 45 seconds to pass :lol:
I still have my full German licence to fall back on :D

Toots why not new drivers only I don't believe that they should pass the full test just be able to take an examiner from point A to point B in a safe and smooth manner say a half hour test


Why only new drivers and what makes them a 'new driver'?

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 Post subject: Re: driving test
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:58 pm 
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I'm only describing the kind of attitude it is and it is certainly not something I would actually say from my lips, heaven forbid O:) :lol:


Why should an existing licensee pass a test? They may have an excellent driving record and could have been driving cabs for many years.

Surely, a local authority should be able to arrange a policy so that a driver, if their driving record through complaints or endorsements, can order the licensee to take and pass a test within a certain period.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:10 pm 
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I think it's a brilliant idea and one which should be rolled out across the country.


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 Post subject: Re: driving test
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:18 pm 
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I'm only describing the kind of attitude it is and it is certainly not something I would actually say from my lips, heaven forbid O:) :lol:


Why should an existing licensee pass a test? They may have an excellent driving record and could have been driving cabs for many years.

Surely, a local authority should be able to arrange a policy so that a driver, if their driving record through complaints or endorsements, can order the licensee to take and pass a test within a certain period.

CC


The whole systems all to cock...you Pass a driving test to say that your a fit person to drive on the roads of the UK......but Oh No..not bloody good enough for some, they Insist another test which would only reaffirm the results of the First driving test. The same Sh*t applies to that stupid C.P.C which needlessly reaffirms your ability to drive a Minibus, Bus or an H.G.V, and you don't even need to pass it, simply be present during 36 hours of guff you already knew when you did pass the test.

Its small wonder the UK an the Europeans are going downwards whilst the Indians and Chinese are going upwards on the Worlds wealth ladder when we are encumbered with such needless bureaucracy and the Emerging nations are pretty much free to do their own thing unhindered by stupid rules, laws, acts, technicalities and other needless sh*te.

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 Post subject: Re: driving test
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:23 pm 
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captain cab wrote:
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I'm only describing the kind of attitude it is and it is certainly not something I would actually say from my lips, heaven forbid O:) :lol:


Why should an existing licensee pass a test? They may have an excellent driving record and could have been driving cabs for many years.

Surely, a local authority should be able to arrange a policy so that a driver, if their driving record through complaints or endorsements, can order the licensee to take and pass a test within a certain period.

CC


That makes sense to me but it should apply to all drivers, there should not be one rule for one and another rule for the other. A new applicant could have just as many years of experience driving but within a different job. Skip seems to be of the opinion that all new drivers should be tested and I think that is wrong.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:31 pm 
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toots wrote:

That makes sense to me but it should apply to all drivers, there should not be one rule for one and another rule for the other. A new applicant could have just as many years of experience driving but within a different job. Skip seems to be of the opinion that all new drivers should be tested and I think that is wrong.



Its only a request for information....section 57 :lol:

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In all fairness to the OP I sort of understand where he is coming from, and cannot see how a blanket DSA test to all existing drivers could be a reasonable thing.

However I haven't looked but if the Captain is right with his timings then this might have come in at the same time the area restricted taxi numbers. So maybe this was part of the deal.

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bloodnock wrote:
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You could all appeal to a magistrate,
I would expect new applicants to do this test, but not someone who has been doing the job for years


Will you and me need to sit a Scottish Driving test Skip if the Indies win...as our old UK licence will only be good for driving south of Berwick. :-k


Still scaremongering then :roll:

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:37 pm 
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In all fairness to the OP I sort of understand where he is coming from, and cannot see how a blanket DSA test to all existing drivers could be a reasonable thing.

However I haven't looked but if the Captain is right with his timings then this might have come in at the same time the area restricted taxi numbers. So maybe this was part of the deal.


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 Post subject: Re: driving test
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:50 pm 
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captain cab wrote:
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That makes sense to me but it should apply to all drivers, there should not be one rule for one and another rule for the other. A new applicant could have just as many years of experience driving but within a different job. Skip seems to be of the opinion that all new drivers should be tested and I think that is wrong.



Its only a request for information....section 57 :lol:


What is only a request for information :? I can't wait for you to have to learn all the sections all over again :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:52 pm 
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gusmac wrote:
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You could all appeal to a magistrate,
I would expect new applicants to do this test, but not someone who has been doing the job for years


Will you and me need to sit a Scottish Driving test Skip if the Indies win...as our old UK licence will only be good for driving south of Berwick. :-k


Still scaremongering then :roll:


Has somebody done a runner with your soh :lol:

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What is only a request for information :? I can't wait for you to have to learn all the sections all over again :lol:



57 Power to require applicants to submit information..

    [1]A district council may require any applicant for a licence under the Act of 1847 or under this Part of this Act to submit to them such information as they may reasonably consider necessary to enable them to determine whether the licence should be granted and whether conditions should be attached to any such licence. .

    [2]Without prejudice to the generality of the foregoing subsection— .

    [a]a district council may require an applicant for a driver’s licence in respect of a hackney carriage or a private hire vehicle— .

    [i]to produce a certificate signed by a registered medical practitioner to the effect that he is physically fit to be the driver of a hackney carriage or a private hire vehicle; and .

    [ii]whether or not such a certificate has been produced, to submit to examination by a registered medical practitioner selected by the district council as to his physical fitness to be the driver of a hackney carriage or a private hire vehicle; .

    [b]a district council may require an applicant for an operator’s licence to submit to them such information as to— .

    [i]the name and address of the applicant; .

    [ii]the address or addresses whether within the area of the council or not from which he intends to carry on business in connection with private hire vehicles licensed under this Part of this Act; .

    [iii]any trade or business activities he has carried on before making the application; .

    [iv]any previous application he has made for an operator’s licence; .

    [v]the revocation or suspension of any operator’s licence previously held by him; .

    [vi]any convictions recorded against the applicant; .

    as they may reasonably consider necessary to enable them to determine whether to grant such licence;

    [c]in addition to the information specified in paragraph (b) of this subsection, a district council may require an applicant for an operator’s licence to submit to them— .

    [i]if the applicant is or has been a director or secretary of a company, information as to any convictions recorded against that company at any relevant time; any trade or business activities carried on by that company; any previous application made by that company for an operator’s licence; and any revocation or suspension of an operator’s licence previously held by that company; .

    [ii]if the applicant is a company, information as to any convictions recorded against a director or secretary of that company; any trade or business activities carried on by any such director or secretary; any previous application made by any such director or secretary for an operator’s licence; and any revocation or suspension of an operator’s licence previously held by such director or secretary; .

    [iii]if the applicant proposes to operate the vehicle in partnership with any other person, information as to any convictions recorded against that person; any trade or business activities carried on by that person; any previous application made by that person for an operator’s licence; and any revocation or suspension of an operator’s licence previously held by him. .

    [3]If any person knowingly or recklessly makes a false statement or omits any material particular in giving information under this section, he shall be guilty of an offence.

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 Post subject: Re: driving test
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:01 pm 
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gusmac wrote:
bloodnock wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
You could all appeal to a magistrate,
I would expect new applicants to do this test, but not someone who has been doing the job for years


Will you and me need to sit a Scottish Driving test Skip if the Indies win...as our old UK licence will only be good for driving south of Berwick. :-k


Still scaremongering then :roll:


No.......Was joking..or has the SNP banned that to?

Still.......its things like that which will need answered at some point...cant see how a Scot using a United Kingdom driving license can be of much use permanently outside of the UK, Eg: in an Independent Scotland, Indeed it might not be much use within the UK either!!


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