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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:28 pm 
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is this you're boyfriend Nidge?????
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is this you're boyfriend Nidge?????
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:59 pm 
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I ask everyone I can in the cab about how they feel about independence.

Haven't come across any support for it.

I've no doubt that if they can be bothered turning up, the yes campaign is going to be rogered. I can't see them getting much more than 30% of the vote. Time will tell.

For me the issue is less about independence as such, it's about the quality of those currently in control, its about shifting the power base from Westminster to Brussels, its about keeping the Monarchy, it's about our inability to modernise our State and Justice system, our over-dependence on a diminishing oil supply, the lack of real wealth to rebuild our industrial base, our manic adherence to Green propaganda and the dogmatic drive to more expensive renewable energy supplies, our lack of willingness to harness nuclear technology, the ramifications for our defence forces and the separation through a border of me and a vast hinterland of my extended family and friends.

What concerns me about Gusmac and his ilk, is that they offer no vision of what an "independent" Scotland would be like. For them is a matter of the heart. Get independence and we'll sort out the rest later, and on our own we'll be able to.

Not for me. I would need to see a real vision being proposed, and a road map of precisely how we're going to get there. And the cost to me as a taxpayer.

Without these things in the debate, then the timing is wrong. It may always be wrong. But it's up to the yes campaign to persuade us. And they aren't.

And, as I've said before. Just because things about the union are wrong, that doesn't make separation right. What would help the union would be an effective and politically charged government opposition. It's not separation we need, its a root and branch review of Westminster, a complete modernisation. Perhaps along the tripartite US system where over exertion of power by one element of government is contained and balanced by the other two.

We don't even have a revising chamber for Scotland's Parliament. Our government system is not mature enough to deal with full government. Methinks Salmond is running before he can walk.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:54 pm 
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You haven't found anyone? Aye right :roll:
But if that's the case, you really have nothing to worry about. Do you?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:03 pm 
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gusmac wrote:
You haven't found anyone? Aye right :roll:
But if that's the case, you really have nothing to worry about. Do you?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


And you've proved the paucity of your argument once again.

You seize on the irrelevant and ignore the chance to answer the serious problems with your proposition.

No argument, because you don't have one and can't. You're unable to persuade anyone.

Don't you realise folks know this. And that's why you're going to lose?

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Jasbar wrote:
gusmac wrote:
You haven't found anyone? Aye right :roll:
But if that's the case, you really have nothing to worry about. Do you?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


And you've proved the paucity of your argument once again.

You seize on the irrelevant and ignore the chance to answer the serious problems with your proposition.

No argument, because you don't have one and can't. You're unable to persuade anyone.

Don't you realise folks know this. And that's why you're going to lose?


You can't even be honest with yourself. Nobody? Who are you trying to kid? Even the BBC wouldn't expect us to believe that crock. :shock:
Your lot have run out of scare stories and support for YES is still rising. Your fear is palpable and it's well founded.
Your selfish ilk are on course to be swept away in 18 month's time. Bring it on.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:40 pm 
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Jasbar wrote:
I ask everyone I can in the cab about how they feel about independence.

Haven't come across any support for it.

I've no doubt that if they can be bothered turning up, the yes campaign is going to be rogered. I can't see them getting much more than 30% of the vote. Time will tell.

For me the issue is less about independence as such, it's about the quality of those currently in control, its about shifting the power base from Westminster to Brussels, its about keeping the Monarchy, it's about our inability to modernise our State and Justice system, our over-dependence on a diminishing oil supply, the lack of real wealth to rebuild our industrial base, our manic adherence to Green propaganda and the dogmatic drive to more expensive renewable energy supplies, our lack of willingness to harness nuclear technology, the ramifications for our defence forces and the separation through a border of me and a vast hinterland of my extended family and friends.

What concerns me about Gusmac and his ilk, is that they offer no vision of what an "independent" Scotland would be like. For them is a matter of the heart. Get independence and we'll sort out the rest later, and on our own we'll be able to.

Not for me. I would need to see a real vision being proposed, and a road map of precisely how we're going to get there. And the cost to me as a taxpayer.

Without these things in the debate, then the timing is wrong. It may always be wrong. But it's up to the yes campaign to persuade us. And they aren't.

And, as I've said before. Just because things about the union are wrong, that doesn't make separation right. What would help the union would be an effective and politically charged government opposition. It's not separation we need, its a root and branch review of Westminster, a complete modernisation. Perhaps along the tripartite US system where over exertion of power by one element of government is contained and balanced by the other two.

We don't even have a revising chamber for Scotland's Parliament. Our government system is not mature enough to deal with full government. Methinks Salmond is running before he can walk.

NO!
Jassie boy ffs ask yourself this question : Do you agree British Politics (Westminster) is a total mess and with no political accountability to individual politicians or political parties ?

Do you agree the mess is un-fixable in our life time ?

Did you ever believe the Right would jump in to bed with the far left so as to out the centre left and gain power ? Talk about selling your grannies silver !!! (Not you, of course you wouldn't )

The SNP on the other hand have stabilised Scotland, an overall majority of the population recognised this and gave the SNP what they or/and we Scots have fought and died for, hundreds of years Jasbar we now have the constitutional right to vote not fight for independence, remember an overall majority of this great small nation recognised the good the SNP have done, the reward, THE VOTE #voteYES

Based on your answers to the above do you not see the opportunity we have, on the tip of yours and our finger tips we can vote YES for yes Independence but for a new political system ( I favour that American system you mention ), we can also make politicians more individually accountable, we can create a political system that has a true input from the people it represents, on example of individual political accountability is Jenny Dawes, out on your political ear dear.

Over the next year Jasbar the SNP and other pro Indy parties/individuals will put forward the case and benefits for independence but like any good strategist the SNP are not going to go all in until nearer the time, the full case and nothing but the full case your honour must be fresh in the jury's mind when deciding which way the individual will cast there vote.

One thing is for sure Jasbar and based on previous coming from behind victories the case for Independence will be Proven but its not about what YOU want it will be what is best for all, it will be what makes independence works, there will be winners and losers as there is in all walks of life but I believe in 2016 when we vote on our first fully independent government it will be a landslide in favour of a government who will stand up for fairness not necessarily equality, there will be no room at the inn for socialism.

As for a real vision Jasbar, take a look at the way we where under the control of the unionist parties too now, under the control of a government who care about Scotland, look at the good, weigh up the sacrifice when dividing up the dwindling budget given to us by our paymasters at Westminster, here's our money mister chancellor now can we have some back, organised crime ! It's a bloody protection racket if you ask me.

The 18th of September next year Jasbar it's your vote, me thinks you can't be that stupid to vote for everything you are against, I know you stand for change, voting yes is the only vote that can deliver change, Westminster can never change, Scotland has and WILL :D

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:08 pm 
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Private Reggie wrote:
Jasbar wrote:
I ask everyone I can in the cab about how they feel about independence.

Haven't come across any support for it.

I've no doubt that if they can be bothered turning up, the yes campaign is going to be rogered. I can't see them getting much more than 30% of the vote. Time will tell.

For me the issue is less about independence as such, it's about the quality of those currently in control, its about shifting the power base from Westminster to Brussels, its about keeping the Monarchy, it's about our inability to modernise our State and Justice system, our over-dependence on a diminishing oil supply, the lack of real wealth to rebuild our industrial base, our manic adherence to Green propaganda and the dogmatic drive to more expensive renewable energy supplies, our lack of willingness to harness nuclear technology, the ramifications for our defence forces and the separation through a border of me and a vast hinterland of my extended family and friends.

What concerns me about Gusmac and his ilk, is that they offer no vision of what an "independent" Scotland would be like. For them is a matter of the heart. Get independence and we'll sort out the rest later, and on our own we'll be able to.

Not for me. I would need to see a real vision being proposed, and a road map of precisely how we're going to get there. And the cost to me as a taxpayer.

Without these things in the debate, then the timing is wrong. It may always be wrong. But it's up to the yes campaign to persuade us. And they aren't.

And, as I've said before. Just because things about the union are wrong, that doesn't make separation right. What would help the union would be an effective and politically charged government opposition. It's not separation we need, its a root and branch review of Westminster, a complete modernisation. Perhaps along the tripartite US system where over exertion of power by one element of government is contained and balanced by the other two.

We don't even have a revising chamber for Scotland's Parliament. Our government system is not mature enough to deal with full government. Methinks Salmond is running before he can walk.

NO!
Jassie boy ffs ask yourself this question : Do you agree British Politics (Westminster) is a total mess and with no political accountability to individual politicians or political parties ?

Do you agree the mess is un-fixable in our life time ?

Did you ever believe the Right would jump in to bed with the far left so as to out the centre left and gain power ? Talk about selling your grannies silver !!! (Not you, of course you wouldn't )

The SNP on the other hand have stabilised Scotland, an overall majority of the population recognised this and gave the SNP what they or/and we Scots have fought and died for, hundreds of years Jasbar we now have the constitutional right to vote not fight for independence, remember an overall majority of this great small nation recognised the good the SNP have done, the reward, THE VOTE #voteYES

Based on your answers to the above do you not see the opportunity we have, on the tip of yours and our finger tips we can vote YES for yes Independence but for a new political system ( I favour that American system you mention ), we can also make politicians more individually accountable, we can create a political system that has a true input from the people it represents, on example of individual political accountability is Jenny Dawes, out on your political ear dear.

Over the next year Jasbar the SNP and other pro Indy parties/individuals will put forward the case and benefits for independence but like any good strategist the SNP are not going to go all in until nearer the time, the full case and nothing but the full case your honour must be fresh in the jury's mind when deciding which way the individual will cast there vote.

One thing is for sure Jasbar and based on previous coming from behind victories the case for Independence will be Proven but its not about what YOU want it will be what is best for all, it will be what makes independence works, there will be winners and losers as there is in all walks of life but I believe in 2016 when we vote on our first fully independent government it will be a landslide in favour of a government who will stand up for fairness not necessarily equality, there will be no room at the inn for socialism.

As for a real vision Jasbar, take a look at the way we where under the control of the unionist parties too now, under the control of a government who care about Scotland, look at the good, weigh up the sacrifice when dividing up the dwindling budget given to us by our paymasters at Westminster, here's our money mister chancellor now can we have some back, organised crime ! It's a bloody protection racket if you ask me.

The 18th of September next year Jasbar it's your vote, me thinks you can't be that stupid to vote for everything you are against, I know you stand for change, voting yes is the only vote that can deliver change, Westminster can never change, Scotland has and WILL :D

Freedom
So far no response from Edinburgh's mincer of words :D

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