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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:27 am 
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And why wasn't there enough work to go round in a derestricted market?

Too many cabs perhaps?


No, because the economy is fecked.

And derestriction isn't about having an adequate number of cabs to service the work. Market forces with quality controls is the most efficient way to match demand and supply.

Rather derestriction is about fairness, equality and drivers getting a fair shake, with customers not being herded like cattle to wait on the whim of the taxi trade to come and treat them like the cash cow they perceive them to be.


I shall tell you what derestriction does to the availability of taxis on ranks. More Taxis-not enough work-they all join up to the radio circuits, thus at 9am 3pm 11pm and 2am there is not a Taxi to be found on the ranks-they are all off doing school contracts, pubs and clubs (and diluting the PH trade in the bargain!) Mind you plenty around at the times between twiddling their wot sits for hours on end.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:37 pm 
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Aberdeen taxis ‘refusing guide dogs’ on board


AN investigation has been launched into claims that taxi drivers in Aberdeen are refusing to allow guide dogs into their cars on “religious” grounds.

• Some taxi drivers in Aberdeen have refused to let guide dogs on board, it has been claimed

• Refusals down to “religious” reasons, according to chairman of Disability Advisory Group

Members of Aberdeen City Council’s taxi consultation group have ordered the investigation following complaints raised by the city’s Disability Advisory Group.

According a minute of a recent meeting of the consultation group, the Disability Advisory Group had provided details in relation to “several instances” where taxi drivers in the city had allegedly refused to take “visually impaired” passengers to their destination due to the fact that they were accompanied by their guide dogs.

Stephanie Dunsmuir, Clerk to the Disability Advisory Group, stated in a letter to the consultation group: “Members have experienced several instances of taxi drivers refusing to take them to their destination due to the fact that they will be accompanied by their guide dogs.

“Although both members have pointed out that legislation requires taxis to transport passengers and their working dogs unless the driver has a medical exemption, the drivers in question have refused, simply because they do not wish to have a dog in their car.”

Ms Dunsmuir continued: “Our members have also had drivers tell them that they do not wish to have a dog sit on the leather seats of the car. The members have of course pointed out that any trained working dog would sit on the floor of the car and not on the seats. However the drivers concerned have still refused to transport the members as a result.”

Alastair Williamson, the chairman of the Disability Advisory Group, then told the meeting that “apparently certain refusals to carry assistance dogs were due to religious reasons.”

The minute continues: “Paul Connolly (the council’s solicitor for litigation and licensing) explained that although there was a requirement in the licensing conditions for taxi drivers to carry assistance dogs in terms of the Equality Act 2010, there were also protected characteristics relating to religion in the Act. Mr Connolly indicated that he would contact the Equalities and Human Rights Commission for clarification in this regard.”

The consolation group has asked council officers to investigate the claims. The consultation group’s report is due to go before a meeting of the council’s licensing committee next Tuesday.

An Aberdeen City Council spokeswoman said: “The licensing committee will consider the minute of the meeting of the taxi consultation group next week and decide what action if any it wishes to take.”

source: http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/ ... -1-2967568

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AN investigation has been launched into claims that taxi drivers in Aberdeen are refusing to allow guide dogs into their cars on “religious” grounds.

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Gusmac says, anyone can refuse to pick up a blind person as long as it's a matter of religious belief. So if you have a guide dog to assist you, go f...


I agree, with you Gus. If it's part of someone's religious beliefs, then they should be allowed to refuse guide dogs. As forcing them to do otherwise can be construed as being ant-Muslim and racist, and we wouldn't want that... =D> =D> =D> =D>


Hi Skull. I think your just upset at the thought of the dogs being harshly treated. You could get back in the trade in a sort of "Dog Councillor", any dogs that are harshly treated you could give them a [edited by admin], what do you think Skull??? =D> =D>

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Gusmac says, anyone can refuse to pick up a blind person as long as it's a matter of religious belief. So if you have a guide dog to assist you, go f...


I agree, with you Gus. If it's part of someone's religious beliefs, then they should be allowed to refuse guide dogs. As forcing them to do otherwise can be construed as being ant-Muslim and racist, and we wouldn't want that... =D> =D> =D> =D>


Hi Skull. I think your just upset at the thought of the dogs being harshly treated. You could get back in the trade in a sort of "Dog Councillor", any dogs that are harshly treated you could give them a [edited by admin], what do you think Skull??? =D> =D>



Kaiser, if you want me to come over to your City Cabs threads to give Les and Co. a good kicking for their dirty deals, I can you know. :-|

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:38 am 
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Feel free Skull. You remind me of that waiter from "Falty Towers" Manuel, "I know nothing"

That's you Skull, you know nothing, so come over and let's see what crap your going to spout. You and Mr Spealshiteing will get along just fine.

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Gusmac says, anyone can refuse to pick up a blind person as long as it's a matter of religious belief. So if you have a guide dog to assist you, go f...


I agree, with you Gus. If it's part of someone's religious beliefs, then they should be allowed to refuse guide dogs. As forcing them to do otherwise can be construed as being ant-Muslim and racist, and we wouldn't want that... =D> =D> =D> =D>


well...just maybe they should have thought about the possibility of encountering a dirty Dug before they opted for a career in taxiing..
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 5:18 pm 
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Skull wrote:

Gusmac says, anyone can refuse to pick up a blind person as long as it's a matter of religious belief. So if you have a guide dog to assist you, go f... #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o



He didn't actually say that though did he.


He actually stated;


We have drivers from many backgrounds, most are still Aberdonians but we have other Scots, other UK, some Europeans, Asians and Africans.
Still haven't heard of anyone refusing a guide dog, other than in this report. I'm not saying it's not true, but I don't think it's a huge problem.

The law is clear, you take a guide dog unless you have a certificate that says you are exempt. Same goes for any assistance dog and it applies to taxis and PH.
Refuse and you could find yourself being prosecuted and your badge revoked.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 5:52 pm 
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Skull wrote:

Gusmac says, anyone can refuse to pick up a blind person as long as it's a matter of religious belief. So if you have a guide dog to assist you, go f... #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o



He didn't actually say that though did he.


He actually stated;


We have drivers from many backgrounds, most are still Aberdonians but we have other Scots, other UK, some Europeans, Asians and Africans.
Still haven't heard of anyone refusing a guide dog, other than in this report. I'm not saying it's not true, but I don't think it's a huge problem.

The law is clear, you take a guide dog unless you have a certificate that says you are exempt. Same goes for any assistance dog and it applies to taxis and PH.
Refuse and you could find yourself being prosecuted and your badge revoked.


I think you are missing the point, ever-so slightly. #-o

One minute. The bold Gusmac is defending everything radical about Islam and suddenly, when blind people are being refused taxis in Aberdeen on religious grounds, he finds himself dumb-struck, no moral outrage, nothing.

Everyone knows the law, and the who and why, behind blind people and their guide dogs refused access to taxis, but you just can't mention the M word for fear of being labeled a racist.

Gusmac, the defender of the true believers, once again, finds himself fumbling around in the dark when challenged about his lack of comment. Only this time, I was supporting his position to prove a point.

Gusmac, is a mealy-mouthed apologist, who seizes on any opportunity to have an opinion, even if he doesn't believe it himself, a fair-minded liberal man of the people, my ar*se.

So CC, I thought I would have a bit sport with the bold boy. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 6:05 pm 
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Well that's about as accurate as anything else you've contributed to this thread. :roll:


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2013 6:51 pm 
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captain cab wrote:
Skull wrote:

Gusmac says, anyone can refuse to pick up a blind person as long as it's a matter of religious belief. So if you have a guide dog to assist you, go f... #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o



He didn't actually say that though did he.


He actually stated;


We have drivers from many backgrounds, most are still Aberdonians but we have other Scots, other UK, some Europeans, Asians and Africans.
Still haven't heard of anyone refusing a guide dog, other than in this report. I'm not saying it's not true, but I don't think it's a huge problem.

The law is clear, you take a guide dog unless you have a certificate that says you are exempt. Same goes for any assistance dog and it applies to taxis and PH.
Refuse and you could find yourself being prosecuted and your badge revoked.


Correct and I have nothing further to add, other than anyone using Islam as a reason to refuse a guide dog is IMO just trying it on.
I believe the Muslim Council of Great Britain has already said that there is no reason why a Muslim shouldn't take a guide dog.
There are chancers in all walks of life. Islam is no different.

As bloodnock suggested, if they really are that bothered, they should have considered it before entering this trade.
After all, I doubt they would apply to work in a bacon factory.



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One minute. The bold Gusmac is defending everything radical about Islam


That is a lie. I oppose your plans to deprive Muslims of their rights, using Radical Islam as an excuse. I do not defend Radical Islam in any way.

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and suddenly, when blind people are being refused taxis in Aberdeen on religious grounds, he finds himself dumb-struck, no moral outrage, nothing.


That's you using the blind of Aberdeen, just as you did the victims of paedophiles, as no more than fodder for your anti Muslim crusade. The very same fascist shite that got several threads locked already. I have no interest in helping you out with that, nor it seems does anyone else.

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Everyone knows the law, and the who and why, behind blind people and their guide dogs refused access to taxis, but you just can't mention the M word for fear of being labeled a racist.


Which M word is that Skull? Do you mean Muslim?

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Gusmac, the defender of the true believers, once again, finds himself fumbling around in the dark when challenged about his lack of comment. Only this time, I was supporting his position to prove a point.


As it wasn't my position, I fail to see how you could support it.
You just made up something completely untrue, passed it off as something I said, and then agreed with yourself. Presumably because I wouldn't rise to your bait.
And you called me childish. :roll:
That your idea of raising your game Skull?

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Gusmac, is a mealy-mouthed apologist, who seizes on any opportunity to have an opinion, even if he doesn't believe it himself, a fair-minded liberal man of the people, my ar*se.


And you are a **** scumbag who wants nothing more than to stir up trouble
A bit like a small child who pulls the wings off insects and watches them crawl around, for no other reason than their own sadistic amusement.

You are a poor excuse for a human being.

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