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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 3:28 pm 
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But no answer as to why only LTI vehicles were targeted? No answer why a TX11 is polluting but a Transit is not, when they are sharing an identical engine? Cabs in London are surely the best maintained vehicles on the road, subject to constant checks, including emmissions.


I thought London taxis were only tested once a year? Therefore effectively less often than the average vehicle. Thus hardly 'constant checks'?

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jimbo wrote:
But no answer as to why only LTI vehicles were targeted? No answer why a TX11 is polluting but a Transit is not, when they are sharing an identical engine? Cabs in London are surely the best maintained vehicles on the road, subject to constant checks, including emmissions.


I thought London taxis were only tested once a year? Therefore effectively less often than the average vehicle. Thus hardly 'constant checks'?


They would be hard pressed to test 41,000 cabs in 254 days, that's assuming they don't work weekends and bank Holidays. It works out at 161.4 each day. It could happen if they farmed out the testing to other testing stations but even then, it would probably be a full time job just testing cabs.

I'm afraid once yearly tests for London Cabs in this day and age might be seen as inappropriate by some? However the PCO set the standards so I assume they know what they are doing? As for policing black cabs on the street I haven't a clue if this is done on a daily basis or periodically? If they follow the model of the rest of the country it is done periodically but may be London operates differently?

Considering London cabs contribute 24% to the pollution of the Capitol I'm surprised Mr Livingstone hasn't been more demanding of both LTI and Metrocab, to clean up their act?

The PCO won't allow cleaner greener vehicles to ply for hire on the streets of London unless they comply with the 25ft turning circle so the citizens of London are stuck with the status quo.

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Cleaner, Greener? Such as? Please don't suggest bread vans! muckiest emmissions on new vehicles I have ever seen?


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Talking about your mob, if you were anywhere near Charing Cross Road last night, you would have seen the wonderful sight of two licensed Minicabs sitting on a couple of tow trucks after the TFL Met unit arrested their drivers for touting near Taliban Taxees old office.

Apparantly they are now applying to the courts to have their ' Licensed Minicabs ' crushed upon conviction.

Now this could be the best detterent yet for the little people! :D
So if you fancy eating your beans from a crushed Mercedes, turned tin, watch this space . . . :D :D :D
ban dont license say the whole world every one hates miniscab driver


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JD wrote:
jimbo wrote:
But no answer as to why only LTI vehicles were targeted? No answer why a TX11 is polluting but a Transit is not, when they are sharing an identical engine? Cabs in London are surely the best maintained vehicles on the road, subject to constant checks, including emmissions. THis distorted report is complete wazz, as you well know, but, as usual you do not allow the truth to get in the way of what you view as a good story.


London

It would seem Taxis in London are accountable for 24% of air pollution. What can be done about it?

Passage from one of many articles. next they will be saying that you will have to fit a catlic converter to your born fire or fag
As a first step, the city’s 20,000 taxis – which are currently responsible for 24 per cent of fine particles and 12 per cent of NOx emissions from road transport in central London – will have to meet strict emissions standards. The cost of converting them to reach the new standards will be met by a flat rate fare increase of 20 pence per journey from April 2005. All London buses will be fitted with particulate traps by December 2005 – reducing emissions of PM10 (and other pollutants) by over 90 per cent and making our fleet one of the cleanest in the country. These measures should reduce emissions, improve health and go a long way towards meeting the Government’s air quality objectives for the capital


http://www.london.gov.uk/mayor/environm ... ssions.jsp

http://www.cfit.gov.uk/pn/0303/

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/pco/pdfdocs/emiss ... n-date.pdf

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/pco/downloads/emi ... egy%20.pdf

http://www.london.gov.uk/view_press_rel ... aseid=4637

http://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/news ... _green.php

http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?f=57&t=182732


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 9:09 pm 
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ban dont license say the whole world every one hates miniscab driver

i think you will find they dont.
becuase if they did then there would be no work for the 40 odd thousnd of them.
in my area the drivers have to pass the same tests for PH and taxis. :shock:


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Ollie wrote:
Crazy that the London cab trade are going out of their way to kill off all their trade.

Still at least the good people of London now have a choice of licensed vehicle.

And thank the lord most of them are seeing the light and coming our way. :D

Ollie
funny that a miniscab driver crashed in to me in october and he told his insurance company he was retired we checked with the pco and the miniscabdriver who said he was retired was working as a miniscab driver avoiding tax and national insurance and did not have any hire and reward insurance and you say happy to be legit ban dont licence as u cant trust a miniscabdriver you are just a tout with a yellow sticker


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:24 pm 
cant see your point fella.
yes there are bad minicabs. yes there are bad taxis.
as for a tout.
im as much a cab driver as you. but i look at it as im a ph driver with a license to ply. :D


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I thought London taxis were only tested once a year? Therefore effectively less often than the average vehicle. Thus hardly 'constant checks'?


The PCO are out most days doing random checks at random places.
they are easily spotted with their dayglow jackets. (Whoosh I'm off) :shock:
If the cab attracts attention such as being dirty, these are the ones they go for.
Also one day they will be going down the line checking tyres, or how far your brake pedal goes down, or give a rev of the engine for SMOKE.

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Yes, I think they have that in most if not all areas, but generally speaking I think the checks are fairly cursory, and if they are that obviously going to fail an ommissions test then it would have been rectified, thus the ommissions aren't really being checked properly.

And of course, as you demonstrate, many driver take steps to avoid the checks :wink:

Thus as regards each vehicle, I suspect that the claim of 'constant checks' (the claim I took issue with) isn't really appropriate.

The PCO may be constantly checking, but not each individual taxi.

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