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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:37 pm 
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Missed this one when the rank opened.

Usual exaggeration from both sides, I suspect. Drivers saying it's a total mess and their whole world is collapsing, the railway company in PR overdrive saying how well it's been planned and how swimmingly it's all going, blah, blah.

As per usual, suspect the truth somewhere inbetween.


Cabbies’ anger on first day of their new rank

https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/1802954 ... -new-rank/

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Masih Bashirzadeh (Image: Brighton Argus)

TAXI drivers said they were “furious and helpless” on the first day of a controversial new rank.

The old one outside Brighton Station was replaced with a new bay behind it in Stroudley Road yesterday.

Govia Thameslink Railway plans to turn the previous space into a “covered pedestrian plaza” with a café and an area for bikes.

It said the new bay is larger and allows quicker access to the A270 and A23 for journeys out of the city.

But on the new rank’s first day, city cabbies were furious.

Taxi driver Nabs Roman said: “Look, when you do a deal with a large company, you just have to take it.

“It’s all about money. They want to put new retail outlets by the old rank out front.

“And to add insult to injury, each of the cabs you see here has had to pay around £1,000 for a station permit.

“Some drivers are saying we should boycott it. I just feel helpless.”

As the new rank opened, drivers were confused by the system. Marshals in high-vis jackets were out directing them to different spots.

Some visitors at the station were also disorientated. “Where do we go now?” said one. “It’s not easy to spot,” said another.

Niti Halili has been a taxi driver for ten years.

He said: “It’s not about how I feel. My customers are not happy. The signposting for the new rank isn’t clear. New visitors don’t know where to go.

“Of course I’m upset too. But it’s because my customers are out here without a roof over their heads. And what about wheelchair access? That’s something that worries me. It takes ten minutes for us to get a wheelchair in a taxi – the wait is long enough as it is.”

Cabbie Navan Hanna was worried about being able to support her family. She said she was already seeing a drop in custom.

She said: “It’s really bad. It’s a long way to the station. I’m already seeing less business.

“It’s so sad. I’d rather sit at home and cry than wait here in my car and not make any money.”

Masih Bashirzadeh has been a taxi driver for a decade. He said: “It’s terrible.

“This is not a good place to stop, there are double yellows everywhere and it’s difficult to drop people off. There are lots of problems.

“To be honest I’m very sad. They kicked us out without any reason.”

Govia Thameslink Railway lead facilities manager Karl McCormack said: “The rank is moving because 16.5 million use the station now each year and it simply isn’t fit for purpose for the number of vehicles.”

He said they recognised the potential concern from the taxi trade and had “a new wayfinding campaign within the station to help passengers find their way to the new rank”.

He said: “With regards to claims about longer journeys being worse for people in wheelchairs – it takes only a minute longer to get to the new rank and any passenger in need of assistance will be looked after either by our dedicated customer care team or other station staff.”

He said there was a large canopy for people waiting for a cab.

He added: “We have advertised the new rank extremely clearly with vinyl floor stickers along the walking route from the ticket gates, banners on the walls of the station, fences and in the location of the old rank, new signposts, station PA announcements, posters, and messages put out on the trains as people arrive.

“We have also given taxi drivers leaflets showing the location of the new rank for each driver to give to their passengers when dropping off.”


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:38 pm 
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Defo a jungle out there.

Sections of the B&H hackney trade really are their own worst enemy. ](*,)

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:40 pm 
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Cabbie Navan Hanna was worried about being able to support her family. She said she was already seeing a drop in custom.

She said: “It’s really bad. It’s a long way to the station. I’m already seeing less business.

“It’s so sad. I’d rather sit at home and cry than wait here in my car and not make any money.”

:-s

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He said they recognised the potential concern from the taxi trade and had “a new wayfinding campaign within the station to help passengers find their way to the new rank”.

“With regards to claims about longer journeys being worse for people in wheelchairs – it takes only a minute longer to get to the new rank and any passenger in need of assistance will be looked after either by our dedicated customer care team or other station staff.”

He said there was a large canopy for people waiting for a cab.

He added: “We have advertised the new rank extremely clearly with vinyl floor stickers along the walking route from the ticket gates, banners on the walls of the station, fences and in the location of the old rank, new signposts, station PA announcements, posters, and messages put out on the trains as people arrive.

“We have also given taxi drivers leaflets showing the location of the new rank for each driver to give to their passengers when dropping off.”

Yes, I'm sure it's all perfect, and absolutely no confusion or inconvenience at all [-(


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:47 pm 
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Was always going to end in tears.

When you move a rank 300/400 yards from where it has been for 160+ years you are going to get trouble.

Doesn't help when some in the hackney trade are screwing the rest of the hackney trade, but hey ho welcome to 2019.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:53 pm 
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Was always going to end in tears.

When you move a rank 300/400 yards from where it has been for 160+ years you are going to get trouble.

Doesn't help when some in the hackney trade are screwing the rest of the hackney trade, but hey ho welcome to 2019.

Certainly plenty of conflicting views, particularly in the comments. 90 comments below the article when the rank opened, which is a lot for this kind of thing in a local newspaper :shock:

But this kind of thing will never please everyone - any change just causes a set of new problems, and pi$$es off a new group of, er, 'stakeholders'.

These are from the article earlier today, which I can kind of identify with, even though I don't know the area at all:

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Was there Friday night and all the taxis were honking their horns out the back, at someone who was just dropping their family off, lots of swearing - total chaos. I got an Uber from their back later on - much better as they don't clog up the place, and so much cheaper. Glad they can use that area still


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Wow this paper is a joke!

I work the station rank, and let me tell you this... When i am being BEGGED to stop at the front of the station by customers who are IN TEARS because they cannot physically make the up to 2 train lengths to get a taxi through physical impairments, then yes I WILL be waiting to help customers get a taxi at that front.

Poor single mums, with 2/3/4 kids, school bags, shopping, again almost in tears through the inadequate signing to find the new rank, then the realisation that SHE CANNOT AFFORD the extra £2/3 a day her fare will now cost having to use the back... You guessed it, I WILL be waiting at the front to help these customers out!

GTR southern rail have done this for one selfish reason... MONEY!! Sod all the customers, sod the ones we've been causing mental illness to, Sod the ones we've caused job losses, let's irritate them and make their life more of a misery!!

And dont start all this traffic argument out the front... that only became a problem when the green council decided to make a single one way lane to be shared by cars, buses, taxis, delivery trucks, emergency vehicles outside one of the busiest train stations in the UK.

GIVE THE THE DRIVERS AND THE PUBLIC OUR RANK BACK AND STOP THIS DESPICABLE SELFISHNESS BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!!!


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:31 pm 
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I haven't been to Brighton station for a few years, but didn't the taxis used to park on the road on the east side of the station, under the overall roof? ISTR they also shared the forecourt with the buses.

Maybe it's because GTR (aka Go-Ahead Group) moved the bus stops to their original postition in the front of the station because they also own the local Brighton & Hove Bus company. Oh, and Metrobus, who run into Brighton from the Crwaley area, so not really a major player in the area!

As for going south from Brighton station, the furthest south you can go from there is about a mile then you fall in the sea. Unless of course you turn left or right to head east or west. :)


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