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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:54 pm 
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multi-owners won't get any extra, and won't even get a penny if they don't have a badge, by the looks of it

My heart bleeds for them.

Some of the reps and fleet owners have been trying to impress upon the Scottish Government the difference between vehicles and drivers, but that obviously hasn't been taken on board, and they're not best pleased.

But not sure whether that's because Scot Gov don't really appreciate the distinction, or maybe they've decided that help best concentrated at badgeholders rather than plateholders.

A few days ago 'Edinburgh Taxis' wrote:
Helping taxi drivers & helping taxi owner operators are 2 VERY different things @KateForbesMSP

One of those options drastically dilutes funding from where it needs 2 be. Most ‘drivers’ in Scotland do not own a licensed vehicle and are not tied 2 the industry


Today 'Edinburgh Taxis' wrote:
Grants are required for ongoing fixed costs - not to supplement income. Unsure if this decision is incompetence, corruption or both. Either way, it is an indefensible position to hold and resignations are going to be called for over this nonsense.



A few days ago the Scottish Taxi Federation wrote:
Hopefully the Govt will acknowledge that its Taxi Operators who are desperately trying to fund the fixed costs to ensure their business survives. More often than not an operator and driver are one and the same but not always, and it’s important that this distinction is recognised


Today the Scottish Taxi Federation wrote:
Despite clear and concise feedback from the STF you have completely missed the target and failed to offer sufficient support to operators. Your statement simply confuses matters further and there appears to remain a lack of understating on how this sector operates.

(Of course, an 'operator' up here is a plateholder, not a despatch office.)


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:04 pm 
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‘I feel cheated by the government over taxi driver grant’

https://news.stv.tv/west-central/i-feel ... iver-grant

Private hire driver Richard Halliday is disappointed by restrictions placed on a new £1500 grant.


Article above should load fairly quickly, but this video news report covers all the bases:

https://youtu.be/Qwc5JSmuVUc


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:59 pm 
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Didn't think there would be much politics involved, but it's all kicking off now :?

This from the Scottish Tories, for example:

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There's no bigger critic of the SNP than me (well, almost), but I'm reasonably pleased with it all on a personal basis, assuming my application goes smoothly [-o<

Of course, if I had claimed benefits and was thus now ineligible, obviously I wouldn't be too happy :?

Anyway, unfortunate that the guy in the STV video is driving a 70-plate Octavia, thus must have been bought new since 1 September last year. (I've lost track of the rego numbers, so didn't notice at first, but noticed someone somewhere using that to claim that he isn't skint.)

Don't know how that would have come about, or even if it's his own motor. But suspect it was purchased late summer last year when we all thought the worst of it was over.

Anyway, I'm not making any judgements on the guy based on his new motor. But from the public perspective it's bad 'optics', just like those claming they're taking home £100+ a day under normal circumstances.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:36 pm 
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There's a few articles like this knocking about. Note that the Scottish Government saying that they want the DWP to say that the grant wouldn't affect benefit payments, and then they would change the rules for the grant.

Suspect the claim that 50 per cent of drivers ineligible because they've claimed benefits is a bit exaggerated, though.


Edinburgh cabbie warns 'kick in the teeth' grant won't help half of taxi drivers

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/ed ... h-19650486

An Edinburgh cabbie has said as many as 50 per cent of drivers could be unable to claim for a new Scottish Goverment fund to support taxi drivers

A new Scottish Government fund to support taxi drivers could be inaccessible to as many as 50 per cent of the trade, an Edinburgh cabbie has claimed.

Andy Taylor said the £1,500 grant was welcome, but questioned eligibility criteria which appears to rule out anyone who had claimed sick pay or Universal Credit.

Eligibility criteria published by the government states a driver must not have been in receipt of state benefit like Universial Credit or Statutory Sick Pay up until 31 December.

Andy pointed out this could include drivers who had been off sick and self-isolated with coronavirus symptoms, or people who had temporarily claimed Universal Credit when no help was available from the government for the trade.

In October, we reported how some cabbies feared Edinburgh's 300 year old taxi trade could come to an end, with the pandemic forcing many to give up and find new jobs as they struggled to make ends meet.

Whilst finances companies had given some drivers payment holidays on their vehicles, these were usually limited to six months and with no improvement in the situation, Andy said he had considered abandoning the trade altogether.

Speaking to Edinburgh Live about the new funding, Andy said: "As many as 50 per cent of taxi drivers could be ineligible for this grant because of this clause.

"We spoke to our colleagues in Wales who won a similar grant, and they don't have this either.

"What could be a very welcome boost for the trade and drivers will cause a civil war, with some drivers eligible and some excluded.

"I know drivers who did claim Universal Credit, but with this clause they would have been better off not doing that. Thousands of drivers out there are proud, dignified people who have worked all their life.

"Claiming benefits would be a very hard thing for a lot of people to do, now not only have you had to go through that shame they are being kicked in the teeth again."

A Scottish Government spokesperson said: “Universal Credit payments reduce as a person’s income increases so we are concerned that any payment would simply be deducted from an applicant’s benefits. Without a change, making these payments would benefit the DWP, not the drivers.

“We are calling on the DWP to amend their criteria to ensure that drivers on UC can benefit from the full £1500 payment – if they make that change we will amend our criteria.”

Scottish Conservative shadow economy secretary Maurice Golden said: "Like so many other SNP business support measures, this money is long overdue. But it comes with strings attached, making it inaccessible to many who are in desperate need.

"The SNP government urged taxi drivers to claim Universal Credit yet are now penalising them by using these claims as an excuse to block payment of the new lifeline grants.

"These drivers are on their knees through no fault of their own and they will be rightly furious at this decision.

"We know the SNP is clueless about business and the economy, but their repeated failures are putting countless jobs at risks.

"They have received billions of pounds in extra support from the UK government and are sitting on hundreds of millions of pounds of that while firms go bust and jobs are lost."


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:46 pm 
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Statement on TaxiPoint from Glasgow Taxis - an 800 car black cab circuit.

They're obviously focusing on the fact that it's only *badgeholders* who are eligible. Drivers who are also fleet owners and those plateholders who don't have a badge ('operators') will lose out.

For example, the Unite chairman in Glasgow has several HCs, so will get nothing for them. However, he's a badgeholder, so will get the same as a single owner-driver like me, or same as even a weekend driver who doesn't run a cab. And if he didn't have a badge then he'd get zilch, despite running a small fleet :?

Glasgow Taxis wrote:
“All and any financial support for the taxi trade during the pandemic, such as that made available today via the Scottish Government, is both welcome and appreciated.

“However, the model being used for this latest funding merits close scrutiny, in what is a complex industry. It is critically important that everyone involved in the trade can apply for support, but unfortunately eligibility for this particular grant means a number of businesses, owners and drivers have fallen through the cracks.

“Glasgow Taxis has been engaging with government (and respecting embargoes) throughout this process, including today, to make a case for the fund being more widely accessible.

“Specifically, we are upset that some drivers, who may have been so affected by the unprecedented circumstances in 2020 that they had no option but to claim universal credit, are unable to access this fund. Further, it is unfair that businesses and owners who have not qualified for any previous support are not eligible for this funding either.

“An additional issue is the fact that some drivers who have temporarily changed to other jobs, such as in supermarkets or the NHS, will benefit from the fund while operators cannot benefit from the fund and may not be able to continue with taxi loans, insurance, fixed costs and no drivers.

“Glasgow Taxis believes that with the full funding figure unlikely to be spent due to the nature of the exclusions from eligibility, the underspend should be considered as a means of providing additional support for others, especially operators.

“Further meetings with Scottish Government are planned in the coming weeks and Glasgow Taxis will continue to make the case for a fairer deal for the support of all involved in the taxi trade.”


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