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bloodnock · **Joined:** Thu May 03, 2007 8:15 pm **Posts:** 9170

StuartW wrote:

bloodnock wrote:

Bloodnock's council wrote:

"Up to 31 December 2020, have you experienced a loss of income as a taxi or private hire driver (50% of your turnover, compared with 2019) and incurred overhead costs and expenses?

Required answers:"I have experienced a loss of income up to 31 December 2020 and incurred overhead costs and expenses

I have not experienced a loss of income up to 31 December 2020 and incurred overhead costs and expenses

Are they talking about Gross Income (Fare Cash taken) or are they talking about Loss of Income (Pre tax Profit).

On the Scottish Government website they Talk of a 50% loss of Turnover not Income and those are not the same thing.

The Scottish Governement actually used the same wording, as you stated here:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=36538#p406326

'Loss of income' is a bit vague, so I think they're just defining that as at least 50% drop in turnover, which is why it's in brackets after the words 'loss of income'.

Turnover is a more specific word, which simply means top line takings or cash for the day for the average driver. Any invoiced runs could reasonably be included when you do the work rather than when you receive the cash, if that helps.

So if you had £40 cash runs and a £50 school run on a particular day, your turnover would be £90, even if you didn't receive the school run cash for another month or two.

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And what of an Employed driver..they don't use the term Turnover?

If you mean a proper PAYE employee then that's an interesting question, and the questions give the impression that all drivers are self-employed.

If there are PAYE drivers around then loss of income would relate to wages or salary, presumably, and of course in that case there would be furlough payments, and it might get tricky.

But looking at the questions I'm thinking they're assuming all drivers are self-employed. Certainly not many PAYE drivers around these parts.

Of course, a PAYE driver wouldn't have incurred overheads in the normal sense of the word, presumably, which maybe suggests it's only targetted at self-employed drivers.

I've sinced asked our local authority the above questions so hopefully get some answers next week.

StuartW · **Joined:** Wed May 16, 2012 6:33 am **Posts:** 18531

bloodnock wrote:

StuartW wrote:

bloodnock wrote:

Bloodnock's council wrote:

"Up to 31 December 2020, have you experienced a loss of income as a taxi or private hire driver (50% of your turnover, compared with 2019) and incurred overhead costs and expenses?

Required answers:"I have experienced a loss of income up to 31 December 2020 and incurred overhead costs and expenses

I have not experienced a loss of income up to 31 December 2020 and incurred overhead costs and expenses

Are they talking about Gross Income (Fare Cash taken) or are they talking about Loss of Income (Pre tax Profit).

On the Scottish Government website they Talk of a 50% loss of Turnover not Income and those are not the same thing.

The Scottish Governement actually used the same wording, as you stated here:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=36538#p406326

'Loss of income' is a bit vague, so I think they're just defining that as at least 50% drop in turnover, which is why it's in brackets after the words 'loss of income'.

Turnover is a more specific word, which simply means top line takings or cash for the day for the average driver. Any invoiced runs could reasonably be included when you do the work rather than when you receive the cash, if that helps.

So if you had £40 cash runs and a £50 school run on a particular day, your turnover would be £90, even if you didn't receive the school run cash for another month or two.

Quote:

And what of an Employed driver..they don't use the term Turnover?

If you mean a proper PAYE employee then that's an interesting question, and the questions give the impression that all drivers are self-employed.

If there are PAYE drivers around then loss of income would relate to wages or salary, presumably, and of course in that case there would be furlough payments, and it might get tricky.

But looking at the questions I'm thinking they're assuming all drivers are self-employed. Certainly not many PAYE drivers around these parts.

Of course, a PAYE driver wouldn't have incurred overheads in the normal sense of the word, presumably, which maybe suggests it's only targetted at self-employed drivers.

I've sinced asked our local authority the above questions so hopefully get some answers next week.

Just be careful that you don't end up making things more difficult for yourself.

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