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I was at that meeting and there was no mention by anyone of Cartels or Bullying. Those sort of allegations need standing up. So come on Sussex put some meat on it or scarre la mouche.Does anyone know the real author of this article i suspect someone, else wonder why HE didnt have the guts to sign it himself bottle less barsteward !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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By placing this condition on the licence it has effectively guaranteed the radio companies an extra £200,000 a year and as this is restricted to only four companies of which you have connections to one, I must admit it does make one think, or was it simply that you were being played for a fool.

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MR T wrote:
GMB Branch secretary wrote:
I was at that meeting and there was no mention by anyone of Cartels or Bullying. Those sort of allegations need standing up. So come on Sussex put some meat on it or scarre la mouche.Does anyone know the real author of this article i suspect someone, else wonder why HE didnt have the guts to sign it himself bottle less barsteward !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DECISIONS ARE TAKEN BY THOSE THAT TURN UP!


By placing this condition on the licence it has effectively guaranteed the radio companies an extra £200,000 a year and as this is restricted to only four companies of which you have connections to one, I must admit it does make one think, or was it simply that you were being played for a fool.


Congratulations Mr T for being the 1st TDO member to be mislead by this article, Each person who received an offer letter from the council was informed that one of the conditions of offer was, The car and plate has to be on a company of three or more cars. Not restricted to 4 companies.

This is a fact, one down, how many more to go?


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MR T wrote:
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I was at that meeting and there was no mention by anyone of Cartels or Bullying. Those sort of allegations need standing up. So come on Sussex put some meat on it or scarre la mouche.Does anyone know the real author of this article i suspect someone, else wonder why HE didnt have the guts to sign it himself bottle less barsteward !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DECISIONS ARE TAKEN BY THOSE THAT TURN UP!


By placing this condition on the licence it has effectively guaranteed the radio companies an extra £200,000 a year and as this is restricted to only four companies of which you have connections to one, I must admit it does make one think, or was it simply that you were being played for a fool.


For the record, The Brighton drivers decided the policy for this issue, not GMB. :wink:


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GMB Branch secretary wrote:
I was at that meeting and there was no mention by anyone of Cartels or Bullying. Those sort of allegations need standing up. So come on Sussex put some meat on it or scarre la mouche.Does anyone know the real author of this article i suspect someone, else wonder why HE didnt have the guts to sign it himself bottle less barsteward !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DECISIONS ARE TAKEN BY THOSE THAT TURN UP!


By placing this condition on the licence it has effectively guaranteed the radio companies an extra £200,000 a year and as this is restricted to only four companies of which you have connections to one, I must admit it does make one think, or was it simply that you were being played for a fool.


Congratulations Mr T for being the 1st TDO member to be mislead by this


article, Each person who received an offer letter from the council was

informed that one of the conditions of offer was, The car and plate has to
be on a company of three or more cars. Not restricted to 4 companies.

This is a fact, one down, how many more to go?




I'll look forward to your article in next month's Taxi Talk correcting this person's version, and I'm sure that over the next couple of months the truth will become Clear,
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brightonbreezy wrote:
MR T wrote:
GMB Branch secretary wrote:
I was at that meeting and there was no mention by anyone of Cartels or Bullying. Those sort of allegations need standing up. So come on Sussex put some meat on it or scarre la mouche.Does anyone know the real author of this article i suspect someone, else wonder why HE didnt have the guts to sign it himself bottle less barsteward !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DECISIONS ARE TAKEN BY THOSE THAT TURN UP!


By placing this condition on the licence it has effectively guaranteed the radio companies an extra £200,000 a year and as this is restricted to only four companies of which you have connections to one, I must admit it does make one think, or was it simply that you were being played for a fool.


Congratulations Mr T for being the 1st TDO member to be mislead by this


article, Each person who received an offer letter from the council was

informed that one of the conditions of offer was, The car and plate has to
be on a company of three or more cars. Not restricted to 4 companies.

This is a fact, one down, how many more to go?




I'll look forward to your article in next month's Taxi Talk correcting this person's version, and I'm sure that over the next couple of months the truth will become Clear,
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Mr T
Not sure about the article in mag, but like you I do believe the truth always comes out in the end.
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I do not think for one minute that this condition would stand up in court, A hackney Licence is for stands and road, but what I do think is that councils are being put under pressure to become 100 per % wheelchair accessible hackney fleets, and as they can not force drivers to willingly change saloon vehicles for WAV , then their only alternative is to continue issuing licences for WAV, that is unless the law is changed regarding the issuing of private hire vehicles

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Have I missed something here or am I the only one that can see the author's name and e-mail address? :?

At the f***ing bottom. ](*,)

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No-one doubts theres a signature there, but the style of writing and some of the phraseology resembles someone elses WORK I wonder WHO?
EDUCATE ORGANISE AGITATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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MR T wrote:
I do not think for one minute that this condition would stand up in court, A hackney Licence is for stands and road, but what I do think is that councils are being put under pressure to become 100 per wheelchair accessible hackney fleets, and as they can not force drivers to willingly change saloon vehicles forWAV , then their only alternative is to continue issuing licences forWAV, that this unless the law is changed regarding the issuing of private hire vehicles


Have to agree probably wouldn't stand up in court, we'll have to see if anyone challenges it.
I do believe an LA could make all its Hacks WAV cars if it wanted to. One of the options in Brighton was to make all Hacks Wavs at change of car.
Have to admit most of our GMB lads are PH, can't see them wanting WAV cars.
Have to agree with you about LA's under pressure to provide service for WAV users, personally believe every human should be equall. Prob is drivers don't like doing wheelchair work. Maybe the only way to solve prob would be for all hacks to be WAV's.


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I haven't read the Brighton article as yet but I did pluck this little piece of misinformation from Taxi Talk regarding Liverpool Airport. D Cummins states that PTS LTD approached JLA to introduce permits, well what Mr Cummins failed to bring to light is that the management of JLA Airport decided long ago to issue permits and I do mean "long ago" and well before they obviously involved PTS.

If Mr Cummins would like to furnish the timetable of events of when PTS got involved I'll gladly tell him how long this permit scheme has been in the offing? I suppose we all get things wrong now and again but if your going to print something as fact then its always wise to offer up the evidence to support those facts.
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Mr Cummins wrote.

What has come to light is that the idea of a permit scheme came, not from Peel Holdings but from a company called Passenger Transport Solutions Ltd. From what we can gather they approach companies like Peel Holdings and offer to implement and run a permit scheme and of course take a percentage, and all the companies like Peel Holdings have to do is hold out their hands and collect the money. This could explain the huge anomaly between John Lennon and Manchester business and there are a lot more mouths to feed.
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I see the captain puts the DfT best practice advice under the cosh and I must admit although I don't agree with some of his own best practice ideas the article is one of his better offerings.

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JD, In all fairness to yourself and Derek, I think that he has reported the facts as they were presented to him, he might well be advised to start his articles with a foreword, simply saying, As I understand the situation... The facts are...

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JD wrote:
I see the captain puts the DfT best practice advice under the cosh and I must admit although I don't agree with some of his own best practice ideas the article is one of his better offerings.

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Do you not think, that maybe, his intention was that people should disagree. :wink:

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http://www.taxitalk.co.uk/backissues.htm

CC


You can pass on my thanks to Mike, an excellent article on the circuit choices.

It may have even provoked me, at last, into an application form.


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MR T wrote:
I do not think for one minute that this condition would stand up in court, A hackney Licence is for stands and road, but what I do think is that councils are being put under pressure to become 100 per % wheelchair accessible hackney fleets, and as they can not force drivers to willingly change saloon vehicles for WAV , then their only alternative is to continue issuing licences for WAV, that is unless the law is changed regarding the issuing of private hire vehicles


I started to read this article and got bored after the first few paragraphs, the longer it went on the more bored I became and after reading most of the first page I decided I couldn't bear it any longer. I could be wrong but I think the content, which I read resembled items that had already been discussed on TDO. From posts already made on this article it would appear to me that the condition is question is the one which refers to radio circuits is that correct?

I notice the article goes on for several pages so the person who wrote it has put a lot of effort into it, however It shouldn't take four pages to articulate one point if that's what they are trying to do, even if they present differing scenarios and facts appertaining to that point?

If anyone cares to post in this thread what the actual condition is that the article alludes to then I would be most grateful.


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