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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 9:57 am 
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242 views on this thread so far and John T. has disappeared up his own ass8hole, so much for fighting the cause on the side of restriction.


BTW John T, I know of one guy who has a bit of cash and is interested in applying for 5 licences on the strength of the IPL being a pile of pi*h. He is an ex Edinburgh Cabby no less back in the country for a few days this week. :wink:

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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 12:57 pm 
How does the council apply licences when demand exceeds supply? Simple.

After allocating licences squentially, they establish a waiting list.

Picture it. No demand for Taylor. But there is a demand for those on the interested parties list. But there is no demand for those on the waiting list.

Quality!

The only resolution to this pile of merde of the council's own making is to let market forces do the job. Just as every where else in our economy.

Of course, CEC think they can do better.

Yet, using market forces elsewhere hasn't resulted in this merde. No we only see this where councils like CEC think they know better.

Thank Gog Labour has been binned. It remains to be seen whether common sense prevails.


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242 views on this thread so far and John T. has disappeared up his own ass8hole, so much for fighting the cause on the side of restriction.


BTW John T, I know of one guy who has a bit of cash and is interested in applying for 5 licences on the strength of the IPL being a pile of pi*h. He is an ex Edinburgh Cabby no less back in the country for a few days this week. :wink:


There seems no point in replying to an idiot who fails to understand plain English and has no grasp of the law whatsoever.

According to your stupid mind the council must hold a special meeting to discuss each individual application. They do not.

Are you are unable to understand that the question of demand arises and is discussed at the time the application is considered not at the time the application is made? And that is within 6 months of the application being received.

There seems to be no point in trying to raise a discussion with the like of you when you respond with the nonsense you have posted above.

You will no doubt see this as a victory but most others will see that you cannot debate you only use bully boy bluffs. That I can live without.

When you learn how to act in a normal fashion then perhaps it might be worthwhile reading what you write.


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242 views on this thread so far and John T. has disappeared up his own ass8hole, so much for fighting the cause on the side of restriction.


BTW John T, I know of one guy who has a bit of cash and is interested in applying for 5 licences on the strength of the IPL being a pile of pi*h. He is an ex Edinburgh Cabby no less back in the country for a few days this week. :wink:


There seems no point in replying to an idiot who fails to understand plain English and has no grasp of the law whatsoever.

According to your stupid mind the council must hold a special meeting to discuss each individual application. They do not.

Are you are unable to understand that the question of demand arises and is discussed at the time the application is considered not at the time the application is made? And that is within 6 months of the application being received.

There seems to be no point in trying to raise a discussion with the like of you when you respond with the nonsense you have posted above.

You will no doubt see this as a victory but most others will see that you cannot debate you only use bully boy bluffs. That I can live without.

When you learn how to act in a normal fashion then perhaps it might be worthwhile reading what you write.


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According to your stupid mind the council must hold a special meeting to discuss each individual application. They do not. Are you are unable to understand that the question of demand arises and is discussed at the time the application is considered not at the time the application is made? And that is within 6 months of the application being received.


I never said anything of the sort but if the council do not grant the licence automatically you have the right to represent your case before the RC. The council would then have to refuse your licence on the grounds of “no significant unmet demand”, and what’s more, they would need to have up-to-date information to prove that they have satisfied themselves that this is the case. This would be very difficult when they are granting licences at a time their survey information identified a “significant demand”.

John is apparently struggling with the concept that the C.E.C can only refuse a licence on the grounds of “no significant unmet demand”? The onus is on the C.E.C to prove that this is in fact the case when a licence falls to be considered? Who actually makes the application is irrelevant? Whether there are 100 or 500 licence applications when demand is recognised is also irrelevant? The C.E.C cannot unrecognise a “significant demand" depending on the individual applicant?

John doesn’t understand that the C.E.C would have to contradict its own survey information to deny a licence.

Now tell me John, if everyone applies within a few weeks of each other and some before those on the IPL, how do the C.E.C come up with proof of “no significant demand” when proposing to grant some licences but deny others?

Me thinks you are a fanny John. :lol:


BTW, whatever happened to your over-subscription theory as grounds for refusing a licence? :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Seems you haven't quite grasped it yet. Applications are decided at Council meetings, where, as I said, any issue of licences that is oversubscribed requires some to be refused and some to be accepted. Get it now? I am not suggesting that applications be rejected whilst unmet demand exists


You are barking me auld son :lol:

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John, you must be up to your eyes in debt, how much did you pay for your licence?


BTW, spare me the "I am only a driver" crap. I think anyone cans see how desperate you are to hold onto this false plate value and your driver.


How many years do you have left to pay it off?

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Here's the question I asked in the previous post:

Now tell me John, if everyone applies within a few weeks of each other and some before those on the IPL, how do the C.E.C come up with proof of “no significant demand” when proposing to grant some licences but deny others?

Well John, give us your wisdom? :lol:

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BTW, I think Taylor's court case is going to feck them anyway and as I said before the won't be going to the IPL in isolation, we will make sure of that.... :wink:

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Skull wrote:
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242 views on this thread so far and John T. has disappeared up his own ass8hole, so much for fighting the cause on the side of restriction.


BTW John T, I know of one guy who has a bit of cash and is interested in applying for 5 licences on the strength of the IPL being a pile of pi*h. He is an ex Edinburgh Cabby no less back in the country for a few days this week. :wink:


There seems no point in replying to an idiot who fails to understand plain English and has no grasp of the law whatsoever.

According to your stupid mind the council must hold a special meeting to discuss each individual application. They do not.

Are you are unable to understand that the question of demand arises and is discussed at the time the application is considered not at the time the application is made? And that is within 6 months of the application being received.

There seems to be no point in trying to raise a discussion with the like of you when you respond with the nonsense you have posted above.

You will no doubt see this as a victory but most others will see that you cannot debate you only use bully boy bluffs. That I can live without.

When you learn how to act in a normal fashion then perhaps it might be worthwhile reading what you write.


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According to your stupid mind the council must hold a special meeting to discuss each individual application. They do not. Are you are unable to understand that the question of demand arises and is discussed at the time the application is considered not at the time the application is made? And that is within 6 months of the application being received.


I never said anything of the sort but if the council do not grant the licence automatically you have the right to represent your case before the RC. The council would then have to refuse your licence on the grounds of “no significant unmet demand”, and what’s more, they would need to have up-to-date information to prove that they have satisfied themselves that this is the case. This would be very difficult when they are granting licences at a time their survey information identified a “significant demand”.

John is apparently struggling with the concept that the C.E.C can only refuse a licence on the grounds of “no significant unmet demand”? The onus is on the C.E.C to prove that this is in fact the case when a licence falls to be considered? Who actually makes the application is irrelevant? Whether there are 100 or 500 licence applications when demand is recognised is also irrelevant? The C.E.C cannot unrecognise a “significant demand" depending on the individual applicant?

John doesn’t understand that the C.E.C would have to contradict its own survey information to deny a licence.

Now tell me John, if everyone applies within a few weeks of each other and some before those on the IPL, how do the C.E.C come up with proof of “no significant demand” when proposing to grant some licences but deny others?

Me thinks you are a fanny John. :lol:


BTW, whatever happened to your over-subscription theory as grounds for refusing a licence? :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Seems you haven't quite grasped it yet. Applications are decided at Council meetings, where, as I said, any issue of licences that is oversubscribed requires some to be refused and some to be accepted. Get it now? I am not suggesting that applications be rejected whilst unmet demand exists


You are barking me auld son :lol:


So we have a survey which states some unmet demand and recommends that 20 additional licences would meet that demand. So are you suggesting that if there were 40 applications they all would be granted? Would the unmet demand be met after the first 20 licences were granted and the rest denied on the grounds of unmet demand? Or what does it superbrain declare the outcome to be?

Learn to read I said "Let's assume that 20 licences were to be issued and there were 40 applicants, how does a council decide who gets and who doesn't? They discuss and judge each individual case on its merits. What the deciding factors are may be arguable..." I do not think that says oversubscription is a reason for refusal, do you?


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Here's the question I asked in the previous post:

Now tell me John, if everyone applies within a few weeks of each other and some before those on the IPL, how do the C.E.C come up with proof of “no significant demand” when proposing to grant some licences but deny others?

Well John, give us your wisdom? :lol:


Who am I to inform the like of your highness the king of clowns on taxi matters. You know it all, Assaults, lies, arrogance, unemployment, how to waste taxpayers money, divorce, being the butt of most jokes. But still you think you're right and the rest of the world wrong.

You're a joke and this forum's a joke so goodbye. I'm going back to the real world.


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You're a joke and this forum's a joke so goodbye. I'm going back to the real world.


Another 1 that clearly doesn't like freedom of speech, bye bye fella have a goodun :D

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John T wrote:
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Here's the question I asked in the previous post:

Now tell me John, if everyone applies within a few weeks of each other and some before those on the IPL, how do the C.E.C come up with proof of “no significant demand” when proposing to grant some licences but deny others?

Well John, give us your wisdom? :lol:


Who am I to inform the like of your highness the king of clowns on taxi matters. You know it all, Assaults, lies, arrogance, unemployment, how to waste taxpayers money, divorce, being the butt of most jokes. But still you think you're right and the rest of the world wrong.

You're a joke and this forum's a joke so goodbye. I'm going back to the real world.


Try again John you never answered the question:

Now tell me John, if everyone applies within a few weeks of each other and some before those on the IPL, how do the C.E.C come up with proof of “no significant demand” when proposing to grant some licences but deny others?

Think "no significant demand John that's all you have to do.

Here's another one; what if some people apply before the survey information is made public what then?

BTW John, the merits of the licence application has sod all to do with it, denying a licence it's about proving there is "no significant unmet demand" and the law doesn't put a number on demand only that it exists.

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John T wrote:
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Here's the question I asked in the previous post:

Now tell me John, if everyone applies within a few weeks of each other and some before those on the IPL, how do the C.E.C come up with proof of “no significant demand” when proposing to grant some licences but deny others?

Well John, give us your wisdom? :lol:


Who am I to inform the like of your highness the king of clowns on taxi matters. You know it all, Assaults, lies, arrogance, unemployment, how to waste taxpayers money, divorce, being the butt of most jokes. But still you think you're right and the rest of the world wrong.

You're a joke and this forum's a joke so goodbye. I'm going back to the real world.


The Law Lords seem to have though I was right John or haven't you noticed.

BTW I would be worried if you were not attacking me then I would know I was wrong.

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Just think John, what if 50 people apply before those on the IPL? That could mean 50 interested ass8holes left on the list for another 20 years. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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You're a joke and this forum's a joke so goodbye. I'm going back to the real world.


Another 1 that clearly doesn't like freedom of speech, bye bye fella have a goodun :D


I think John is a bit upset about paying all that money for a plate.

Silly boy :lol:

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kermit2482 wrote:
John T wrote:

You're a joke and this forum's a joke so goodbye. I'm going back to the real world.


Another 1 that clearly doesn't like freedom of speech, bye bye fella have a goodun :D


Does your version of freedom of speech include allowing an asshole who persistently fails to understand the written word to continue to write abuse?
Or do we just allow him to ignore the truth, avoid the questions asked of him but demand answers to his questions?

As I said Skull's one big joke, a buffoon despised and rejected by almost all of those who have had the misfortune to know him, yet he is welcomed here. And that does little for the reputation of this forum as by failing to restrain his constant attacks they by default support him.


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