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Excellent.... so business wants cab drivers who cant speak english and dont know where they're going? :lol:



Those firms who use Minicabs can already boast that service.


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Discrimination is discrimination, whether it is positive or negative.
The only criteria which should apply is the ability to pass "the knowledge".


So true, the best man for the job should always be the case.

It is only the P.C brigade, politicians and others who seek a back door method.

Kens a Blee***g nutter, he has got to go. Bring in bonking Boris, he will be to busy Sh*****g everything in sight to know what is going on. :shock:

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Sat nav is an excellent aid to finding your way around but I have to agree with GBC it is no substitute for local knowlege.

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Sat nav is an excellent aid to finding your way around but I have to agree with GBC it is no substitute for local knowlege.
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What do the TGWU & LTDA think about this scheme? Both seem pretty pally with the Mayor these days.


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What do the TGWU & LTDA think about this scheme? Both seem pretty pally with the Mayor these days.

I think if a PH driver/association had suggested a quickie KOL, then the likes of the T&G and LTDA would be up in arms.

But on this issue they seem they want to keep quiet. :?

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Only a quick question and not wishing to hijack the topic, do sat navs work very well in London, keeping in mind the high/density of buildings.

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Only a quick question and not wishing to hijack the topic, do sat navs work very well in London, keeping in mind the high/density of buildings.


Not from what I've heard.
I don't think it's so much the high density of buildings as the inaccuracy of some of the mapping and failure to understand the traffic patterns.
Useful, but no substitute for knowledge and years of experience.

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cabby john wrote:
Only a quick question and not wishing to hijack the topic, do sat navs work very well in London, keeping in mind the high/density of buildings.


Not from what I've heard.
I don't think it's so much the high density of buildings as the inaccuracy of some of the mapping and failure to understand the traffic patterns.
Useful, but no substitute for knowledge and years of experience.


The best sat nav I have used and still using after 5 years is built into my blaupunkt stereo, the only thing I have had to do is up grade the discs every 2 years, available from e bay, and use an outside arial I fitted it to my top sign for hight.
I also have a tom tom, but that can sometime be affected by buildings but the map always come back on when clear of them, mainly use tom tom for speed cams and hands free and to check map of area as blaupunkt only shows extremely accurate directions with arrows, and voice, If you have ever tried driving in Paris and around the ring road there it works wonders


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, If you have ever tried driving in Paris and around the ring road
Tried that once - never again! Those frenchies are nuts!

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cabby john wrote:
Only a quick question and not wishing to hijack the topic, do sat navs work very well in London, keeping in mind the high/density of buildings.


Not from what I've heard.
I don't think it's so much the high density of buildings as the inaccuracy of some of the mapping and failure to understand the traffic patterns.
Useful, but no substitute for knowledge and years of experience.


I agree. Same's true in Edinburgh.

Some of the crazy traffic schemes just don't register on my TomTom. No left or right turns, part time access to roads like Princes Street and the Cowgate etc, can all lead to wrong routing.

So there is a gap which the knowledge test fills. I suspect it will for a long time to come.

So, satnav is not the threat you would think it is to the quality control mechanism that is the knowledge test.


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cabby john wrote:
Only a quick question and not wishing to hijack the topic, do sat navs work very well in London, keeping in mind the high/density of buildings.


Not from what I've heard.
I don't think it's so much the high density of buildings as the inaccuracy of some of the mapping and failure to understand the traffic patterns.
Useful, but no substitute for knowledge and years of experience.


I agree. Same's true in Edinburgh.

Some of the crazy traffic schemes just don't register on my TomTom. No left or right turns, part time access to roads like Princes Street and the Cowgate etc, can all lead to wrong routing.

So there is a gap which the knowledge test fills. I suspect it will for a long time to come.

So, satnav is not the threat you would think it is to the quality control mechanism that is the knowledge test.


I thought all cabs had access to Princes st, and the Cowpat has a muckle sign telling you when you cannot enter the tunnel, all you have to do is drive up the nearest route and it will re rout automatically, your right there is no answer to local knowledge but just by keeping your eyes open the sat navs can help, especially at night when looking for house numbers in an area your not to familiar with


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I think if a PH driver/association had suggested a quickie KOL


I think the last thing the Minicab trade would want is more drivers leaving their side to come over to ours, they struggle as it is to retain drivers.

What would they do then? Sponser some Romanian orphanage's, on the understanding they all had to become Minicab drivers when they turn 18? :D


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They'll have to lower the standards, look silly spending millions on this scheme if the people dropout at the usual rate.


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I think if a PH driver/association had suggested a quickie KOL


I think the last thing the Minicab trade would want is more drivers leaving their side to come over to ours, they struggle as it is to retain drivers.

What would they do then? Sponser some Romanian orphanage's, on the understanding they all had to become Minicab drivers when they turn 18? :D
* GBC* You got any idea of the LTDA's position with this scheme? They're raking it in since the 'Bash the Flash' campaign. Thought they might have something to say.


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