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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:54 am 
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Farage is a tit. :badgrin:

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:37 am 
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Do you suppose for one second that the people in Downing Street or Holyrood lie awake at nights bricking it because the skull didn't vote?
Your non vote means bugger all. Nothing, zilch, zip, big fat zero. Nobody gives a flying fkuk. Get it?


Oh and this means we have caring politicians who love you and not me Gusmac. So you vote changes what exactly?


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You're the one on drugs, methinks. What have these arab countries actually achieved? Swapped one tinpot dictator for a another or a council of tinpot dictators or a bunch of religous cranks? At best they will get a democracy like ours, and I think you've made it pretty clear what you think of that.


No. What they have is a chance to evolve and to take at least some control back for themselves. What they achieve or not will be down to them. We don't have a democracy Gusmac. What we have an elected dictatorship with little tartan sheeple thinking their vote makes a difference.

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Why the Alec Salmond hang up? The gospel according to skull states that all politicians are scum. What makes him so threatening to you?


I think Alec Salmond is a great politician, and if I was a powerful business type running the country, he would be my choice to control the sheeple.


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Left to you and your anarchist mates, fek all will ever change skull. You'll always be the victim, because that's the way you like it. And you heard that here first.

I've got news for you Gusmac. You are not voting in a new system government that puts the interests of the Scottish people first. This is a wee tartan dream that will never be realised.


I, a victim, I think you've been looking in the mirror. I refuse to be a victim. That's why I take the stance that I do. I leave being a victim to the little Tartan people with chips on their shoulders.

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Likewise Cameron and Milliband will thank you for not voting to change their happy playground.

Now take a hint, i'm done listening to your OTT, biased, inaccurate and contradictory crap.
You lost your badge and you didn't get a plate. You blame the SNP for that, the rest is just bullshit.
You are a bitter and twisted man with an axe to grind. Get over it and get a job.


Oh your listening alright, and that's why you are all bent out of shape believing this Brave Heart, proud to be Scottish, best small country in the world, nonsense.

Scottish Nationalism is a Brigadoon type dream world for brainwashed little tartan people, nothing more. #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:40 am 
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Skull you get nothing better ta dee than sit on your backside and go through you-tube. You need ta get a life


Your reading the posts and watching the videos #-o And your probably sitting their with yer wee kilt and tartan hat #-o :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You should be thanking me, for your education. :wink:


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:48 am 
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Farage is a tit. :badgrin:


I agree, but he's a tit with a serious point. :badgrin:


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:20 am 
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Direct accountability would mean the political class being forced to act in the interests of their electorate and if that happened, their big-business buddies would disown them. As our interest would come first before theirs.

Power of the people by the people...

And that's no opinion Gusmac. It's a fact. :wink:



That one is hard not to agree with tbh.


Since skull seems unable to tell us, maybe you know of a goverment like this anywhere?


I've simply never looked into it. And I don't intend to I just know that we haven't got it, and it's not likely to happen anytime soon with people like you voting for the status quo.

Shouldn't you be the one looking for the new democratic model of government accountability, you are the one voting after all? #-o You might even get my vote. :wink:


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:24 am 
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Direct accountability would mean the political class being forced to act in the interests of their electorate....

Power of the people by the people....

Freedom for Tooting.....

A drink's too wet without one....


Yawn......
Get a job skull or better yet get a life.
At least get some new catchphrases. :roll:

Your boring me now.....

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:19 pm 
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Here's the funny thing Gusmac. In the past, you've held views on various topics, most of which I agreed with. However, since you've gone all tartan, you've turned into a fanatic.

Vote for Independence! #-o

Vote for wee Eck! #-o

Vote SNP! #-o

It's like the Scottish version of the Talaban or Al-Qaeda, all running down the hillside in their kilts, shouting things like FREEDOM, and wanting the infidels out of the country.

Now even though the political class doesn't care a jot about your interests and will always put their chums in big business first. You think for some strange reason. Things will change for the better and people like you will start to matter, after your vote is cast. #-o

Do you see the breakdown in your logic Gusmac?

You do know the film Brave Heart wasn't real and that Scotland was a sh*t hole before, and after the English left, and that Sheepl like you were simply brainwashed into supporting those in power?

You do see a pattern developing, don't you? #-o


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:18 pm 
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Vote for Independence! #-o
yep, I've said that.

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Vote for wee Eck! #-o
Never said that

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Vote SNP! #-o
Might have said that, but only as a vehicle to independence.

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It's like the Scottish version of the Talaban or Al-Qaeda, all running down the hillside in their kilts, shouting things like FREEDOM, and wanting the infidels out of the country.

I definitely haven't said anything like that, I don't own a kilt and I'm well past running anywhere.
Perhaps you are confusing me with some of the union's less tolerant supporters (BNP, Orange order etc) or maybe you've just confirmed my suspicion that you don't really read anything that doesn't fit your views.

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Now even though the political class doesn't care a jot about your interests and will always put their chums in big business first. You think for some strange reason. Things will change for the better and people like you will start to matter, after your vote is cast. #-o

Do you see the breakdown in your logic Gusmac?

No, you just can't think out of your own little box.
You think if enough people refuse to play the game, it will collapse. I can't see that ever happening.

I see independence as the next stage of a longer game. A game that will never get played while Westminster still has the ball.

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You do know the film Brave Heart wasn't real and that Scotland was a sh*t hole before, and after the English left,
Probably more aware of it than you are.

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and that Sheepl like you were simply brainwashed into supporting those in power?

There was no need for brainwashing in those days. People were defacto the property of their feudal masters back then.
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You do see a pattern developing, don't you? #-o

Yes, but you seem unable to see it.
Try looking past the writings of Chomsky or Marx and really educate yourself. These guys and others like them got some of it right but they're not infallible.

And while you're at it, ask yourself why the ostrich never became the dominant life form on this planet.

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Now even though the political class doesn't care a jot about your interests and will always put their chums in big business first. You think for some strange reason. Things will change for the better and people like you will start to matter, after your vote is cast.

Do you see the breakdown in your logic Gusmac?


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No, you just can't think out of your own little box.
You think if enough people refuse to play the game, it will collapse. I can't see that ever happening.

I see independence as the next stage of a longer game. A game that will never get played while Westminster still has the ball.



Oh this is brilliant, “Independence as the next stage of a longer game” well here's your chance to tell everyone about this longer game?

Let's start with how life will change for the sheeple of Scotland, and how the political class will put the sheeple first, before that of big-business and themselves? #-o

Power to the Sheeple Gusmac, so lets hear it. =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> #-o #-o Imagine you are coveting me, to your cause. #-o #-o #-o #-o


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I wouldn't want you to support our cause Skull. Your worth more to us where you are. :lol:
Just keep on spouting your form of unionist pish.
The Scots just love people like you telling them they are clueless [edited by admin] :wink:

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I wouldn't want you to support our cause Skull. Your worth more to us where you are. :lol:
Just keep on spouting your form of unionist pish.
The Scots just love people like you telling them they are clueless [edited by admin] :wink:



The truth is Gusmac. You don't have a clue what you are voting for because you haven't thought it through. Your heid is full of this, Brave Heart, Yer Grannie's heilan' hame, O' flower of Scotland, nonsense. #-o

Here's a statement you can take to the bank. That's if you can find one after the economic collapse. #-o :lol:

The Wealthy Elite, own the country. The Political Class, run the country, and the Sheeple, serve the country.

My guess is, you know where you fit in, Mr.“I see independence as the next stage of a longer game” the only problem is, you don't know what it means. #-o

Well, I do. It means more for them and less for us, and nothing will change because a lot of tartan dreamers voting for independence. #-o

Same sh*te, different day. :-|


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I wouldn't want you to support our cause Skull. Your worth more to us where you are. :lol:
Just keep on spouting your form of unionist pish.
The Scots just love people like you telling them they are clueless [edited by admin] :wink:



The truth is Gusmac. You don't have a clue what you are voting for because you haven't thought it through. Your heid is full of this, Brave Heart, Yer Grannie's heilan' hame, O' flower of Scotland, nonsense. #-o

Here's a statement you can take to the bank. That's if you can find one after the economic collapse. #-o :lol:

The Wealthy Elite, own the country. The Political Class, run the country, and the Sheeple, serve the country.

My guess is, you know where you fit in, Mr.“I see independence as the next stage of a longer game” the only problem is, you don't know what it means. #-o

Well, I do. It means more for them and less for us, and nothing will change because a lot of tartan dreamers voting for independence. #-o

Same sh*te, different day. :-|


Is that the best your superior intellect can come up with Skull? You disappoint me :(
Mr "we're all doomed, don't vote and the bad people will all go away"
You have a neck calling anyone a dreamer. You dream on son, yours is pure fantasy.
Doing nothing achieves exactly that. Nothing.
Same sh*t, every day.

Self educated? Self deluded more like.
Give my regards to your fellow ostriches.

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The Wealthy Elite, own the country. The Political Class, run the country, and the Sheeple, serve the country.


That's the best I can come up with, let me tell you Gusmac, it's the stone-cold reality of the situation. :-|

Where you get the idea, this will all change under independence, is anyone's guess. #-o

You made this statement didn't you “I see independence as the next stage of a longer game," well tell everyone what it means, or is it the truth, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about?

Come on Gusmac, I would love to hear more about this "longer game." How suddenly, the Wealthy Elite and the Political Class are going to put the interests of the sheeple, before their own?

It's not to much to ask, is it? #-o


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This is where you can do yourself a favour, Gusmac. You can admit, you got carried away with this bonny Independent Scotland claptrap, and never really thought through your statement. :-|

You say something like: “to be honest, you've made a few good points, the country, for all intents and purposes, is owned by a wealthy elite, and it's not in the interests of their political class, to put the sheeple first. Yes, Skull, that is a serious problem, and I don't see how voting would really change anything.”

And I would say: yes, Gusmac, to have a government of the people, it would need to be opened up to public scrutiny, at every level, no more meetings or decisions taken behind closed doors. Everything out in the open or nothing will change.

Then you, and all the other little tartan people, would make transparency of Government, top of the political agenda, knowing that without it, your interests will always come last.

I would then give you a big round of =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> for a job well done. :wink:


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:26 pm 
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Skull, you want to know how, use that superior intellect you claim to possess.
I won't avoid answering your questions, as you do with me, I simply refuse to. Get it? You don't deserve an answer.

You are an erse with no answers and a single minded assurity that you are right and the rest of the world is wrong.

In the unlikely event that you do answer my questions, with your own words i might add, then I will answer yours.

Until then, you can whistle :-"

Now toddle off and see if your literal gods have the answers that you clearly don't.

But here's a prediction, since you are so fond of making them:
You won't come back with any answers. Just a sustained attack on me because I refuse to play your game, more doomsday stories, more insults for Scotland and it's people and multiple posts by you as you get more and more frustrated.

Saor Alba, skull.
Even for you ostriches.

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