Taxi Driver Online

Doesn't make it right.

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IDFIMH

It's interesting that there still hasn't been a ticket issued to a licensed London PH in the M4 bus lane.

Maybe a blind eye is being turned.

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IDFIMH

There are now nearly 55, 000 registered PHV's in London.

Legit or not , this is why they dont have a hope in hell's chance in being given the priviledge.

Dizzy Destroyer eh?

I'm flattered.

Let me know when your gonna start, just in case I miss it.

So if I get a hire to London (as if) and the punter wants to go into the city, I can't use the bus lanes because I'm a Licensed Taxi from Scotland? Hhmm.

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Yes you can if you have your sign on the roof, the signage down there only states licenced taxis only not where they are licenced

There have been tickets issued,they have been challenged and the authorities have not isssued any court summons yet. They appear to be avoiding court action, I wonder why?

Perhaps this may explain the apparent reluctance by the authorities to proceed to court. Mr Griffin has challenged the highways authority in respect of the M4 bus lane ,on the following;
The definition of TAXI as used in the 2004 edition of Collin's dictionary.

A CAR THAT MAY BE HIRED,ALONG WITH ITS DRIVER,TO CARRY PASSENGERS TO ANY SPECIFIED DESTINATION.
The argument is that all private hire vehicles,should be classed as licensed TAXI'S because of the facts above ,we do carry passengers that have hired us. and as most signage state licensed taxi ,this must include them

The highways authority have replied and confirmed that this is correct,and that they are not preventing the use of the M4 bus lane by licensed private hire vehicles.

comments welcome please

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More tripe.

The FPN(N's) for using a Bus Lane are issued by individual officers from the Met Police MU at Heston. That's it.

They're issued to individual drivers, if the driver wishes to contest a ticket for being in a bus lane, they must request a court hearing.

This can take anything up to 6 months for a court date. Unlike PCN's isssued by your local pen pushers, the Police issues tickets will still go through a Mags court.

If London Minicabs wish to challenge Bus Lanes, well when I say London Minicabs, we're talking about one company, why don't they instruct all their drivers to drive in the camera enforced lanes?

Oh no, they pick the one with no enforcement.

Brave.

Here's mine Don.



He should stick to running Minicabs instead of playing at barrack room lawyers. Taxis in London are defined within their own act, and Taxis from outside London also have the 1976 act.

So John Griffen can now re-write the law?

The guys delusional.

There has been.

The problem with issuing tickets there is that of good old Health and Safety.

Its an outside lane of a motorway, you can't conduct a stop in lane 3, you then have to pull the car over another two lanes of stationary traffic, you can't get a stop in at the end as 3 lanes become 2 and it's chaos at the best of times.

The only real method of enforcement will be CCTV, but the Highways Agency shy’s away from enforcement, and TFL don't do motorways

Might not apply to cabs licensed under the 1982 act, but defo to cabs licensed under the 1847 act.

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IDFIMH

Apart from the Collins definition I quite like the Home Office definition of a taxi driver, in relation to CRB checks.

"taxi driver" means a driver of a hackney carriage vehicle who is required to be licensed by a person pursuant to section 46 of the Town Police Clauses Act 1847 and section 59 of the Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1976 or pursuant to section 8 of the Metropolitan Public Carriage Act 1869, or a driver of a private hire vehicle who is required to be licensed by a person under section 51 of the Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1976 or the Plymouth City Council Act 1975 or the Private Hire (London) Act 1998;

Admittedly that does apply to the driver not the vehicle, but it's reassuring to see that the Home Office accept that both cab drivers and minicab drivers are one of the same.

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Even the former Director of the Public Carriage Office can't see any difference. (from the email trail that started everything)


From: Thompson Ed (PCO)
Sent: 22 July 2009 12:39
To: Weimar Jeroen (ST); Mason John (TfL); Howard Luke (PCO)
Cc: Craig Graeme; de Caux Julia (ST)
Subject: RE: M4 bus lane



Luke – do we have any previous on this? It’s certainly not TfL to enforce. And the HA might not apply the very specific definition of ‘taxi’ that we do in London. In many places, eg where i come from, the words ‘phv’ and ‘minicab’, are never used – they’re all ‘taxis’ (we are a sophisticated people for whom a subtle verbal inflexion can make a big difference in meaning!).



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