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PERHAPS if i was a chess player, :lol: :lol: Could now announce;"CHECK"

bus lane access for all licensed (TAXI'S) :P :P

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PERHAPS if i was a chess player, :lol: :lol: Could now announce;"CHECK"

bus lane access for all licensed (TAXI'S) :P :P

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Whatever the rights and wrongs of this issue, I feel it's time it was sorted out officially.

If PH are allowed in the M4 bus lane, then tell them. If they aren't then let's see a judge say so, and let's see one of the London PH big boys meet the legal bill for such a challenge.

The last thing we should want to see is for a large PH operator giving it big, the lads following that lead, and then those same lads getting stung if they lose out. :?

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HI,Mark nice try but this fish ain't biting,although i tend to agree with your comments .Do you think that this might be just one operator pushing for a decision ? or might this be smoke and mirrors :wink:

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D.Glave wrote:
PERHAPS if i was a chess player, :lol: :lol: Could now announce;"CHECK"

bus lane access for all licensed (TAXI'S) :P :P




If the GMB put half the effort into tackling the 12 hour shifts, 7 days a week and the associated poverty Minicab drivers put up with day in and day out, that you do on posting assumed progress on here . . . :?

Then you'd be doing well to eliminate the mass touting your drivers practise every night of the week in London.

Wasn't it only a couple of years ago your boss was on here telling us all how drivers would rule the roost, and operators would be begging them to come and work for them?

How things change. All they (the op's) did was to raid another 3 Romanian orphanages and got a whole lot of new mugs into Britain.


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bus lane access for all licensed (TAXI'S)


We already have access. Thanks anyway! :wink:


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The reason PH cars cant drive in bus lanes is because they would intice other drivers of "ordinary" salloon cars to follow them. Taxis can easily be identified as such, AT THE MOMENT. With the soon to be eqaility bill all London PH will have to change to WAV's. Maybe then they will be allowed into Bus Lanes. But I bet they wish that event does not happen.


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tom2907 wrote:
The reason PH cars cant drive in bus lanes is because they would intice other drivers of "ordinary" salloon cars to follow them. Taxis can easily be identified as such, AT THE MOMENT. With the soon to be eqaility bill all London PH will have to change to WAV's. Maybe then they will be allowed into Bus Lanes. But I bet they wish that event does not happen.


The problem of identification will be solved by the new consultation on London PHV signage which will result in suitable signage for Bus Lane access.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:23 pm 
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Dizzy_Destroyer wrote:
tom2907 wrote:
The reason PH cars cant drive in bus lanes is because they would intice other drivers of "ordinary" salloon cars to follow them. Taxis can easily be identified as such, AT THE MOMENT. With the soon to be eqaility bill all London PH will have to change to WAV's. Maybe then they will be allowed into Bus Lanes. But I bet they wish that event does not happen.


The problem of identification will be solved by the new consultation on London PHV signage which will result in suitable signage for Bus Lane access.




Don't you want to comment on the 100% WAV part Mr DD?

That would wipe out 99% of the Minicab fleet, but 0% of ours.

Imagine that, catering for folks that can't jump out of their chairs. :shock:

Next thing we know, your side of the trade will be taking Guide Dogs without citing religious reasons as to why they couldn't.


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Never in a million years will it become 100% wav's. Derestriction by the DFT was for one reason only and that was to boost council and government coffers rather than market needs. They're making all that licence and plate money every year plus all the tax on diesel that private hire are waisting driving around fishing for jobs, also fueling the mechanics trade and most importantly for the powers that be is getting people off the dole. For the long term PH driver then it would probably work out better any way because even if you had to shell out a few bob for a wav vehicle then without doubt there would be less drivers in the job with the best thing getting rid of the festive scabs who work all year round and jump on the taxi's at the end of october and then do one in january when they.ve made a few extra quid for crimbo and leaving us out of pocket. If anything it will be the taxi firms that will be obliged to supply a WAV if requested rather than every driver needing to have one.


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Gregg. as you still refuse to acknowledge the point that a legal challenge could be successful in view of both the Collins and the crb legislative evidence indicating that all duly licensed cars /are in de facto taxis, Perhaps i can advise in respect of other statements that you have made,
1.Terry has never been, nor will he ever be my boss.
2.private hire drivers are free to work whenever they want,the only consideration is earning enough to cover their personal circumstances.
3.you are insistent that all incidents of touting are carried out by licensed drivers,and yet this is not borne out by PCO statistics released by the head of on street enforcement.

and finally I am not employed by anyone nor do i derive any income from this trade.So my posts are not for any financial reward,but are aimed at securing the best possible results and conditions for members of the GMB
professional drivers ,this includes the right to access bus lanes... 8)

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London's private hire fleet is in fact the most modern/green fleet in the land.

the question of unmet demand for wheel chair accessible vehicles has been addressed by the DFT and they are more than happy about London's p/h excessive supply,but as your organisation is not a stakeholder,you would of course not be aware of this. :P



done my stint for today,going to see uncle ned climbing the wooden hill.

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D.Glave wrote:
Gregg. as you still refuse to acknowledge the point that a legal challenge could be successful in view of both the Collins and the crb legislative evidence indicating that all duly licensed cars /are in de facto taxis, Perhaps i can advise in respect of other statements that you have made,
1.Terry has never been, nor will he ever be my boss.
2.private hire drivers are free to work whenever they want,the only consideration is earning enough to cover their personal circumstances.
3.you are insistent that all incidents of touting are carried out by licensed drivers,and yet this is not borne out by PCO statistics released by the head of on street enforcement.

and finally I am not employed by anyone nor do i derive any income from this trade.So my posts are not for any financial reward,but are aimed at securing the best possible results and conditions for members of the GMB
professional drivers ,this includes the right to access bus lanes... 8)




Who's Gregg? :?

A legal challenge for me to license a Smart Car as a Licensed London Taxi could be successful, but it won't.

You're completely overlooking current legislation about LPH and London Taxis. I'm 120% confident that's the way it will remain.
You seem to think the Taxi trade / The PCO / Mayor of London / The Police / The Bus companies will all just say 'Ok' because an arrogant guy who owns a Minicab company says so?

You have to be joking? :D

You also seem to forget the rest of your trade doesn't exactly like the guy and his master plans to take over every operator in London.
Furthermore, and again it seems to have slipped your mind that the GMB are banned from his premises, courtesy of your 'boss' and his antics.

Touting isn't carried out by licensed drivers? :roll:
Not even a thick skinned GMB rep can be that blind as to what happens on the streets of London every night of the week.

The ONLY people I see touting nowadays is licensed Minicab drivers. Ask John Mason, we've had him out a few times now to show him the extent of the problem, they even tried touting him several times.

I'd get out a bit more to Central London Don, see for yourself what's going on, perhaps some of your members are in the thick of it?

Drivers are free to move around. I agree, but from one crap operator with no work to the next crap operator with little work.
Great choice.

In one town the GMB are screaming about Taxi numbers, in London they seem happy that their Minicab members work is now diluted by 55'000, most of which used to drive a donkey in Marrakesh.

We have lots of meetings up at City Hall and Penton Street. I spoke with a senior LTDA rep tonight, this is the first they, or indeed anyone else has heard of your plans.

To echo his words, 'this should be a laugh'

Go for it. :wink:


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:17 am 
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Don't you want to comment on the 100% WAV part Mr DD?

I will.

It wont happen, but would help rid the trade of a lot of deadwood if it did. :D

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 Post subject: M4 Bus Lane Challenge
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GBC wrote:
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We have lots of meetings up at City Hall and Penton Street. I spoke with a senior LTDA rep tonight, this is the first they, or indeed anyone else has heard of your plans.

To echo his words, 'this should be a laugh'

Go for it. :wink:


Powder dry, as you sit on your complacent ranks you ,RMT ,LTDA ,LCDC and UNITE cannot see what is going on. I'll give a clue read the next edition of Private Hire and Courier. :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:


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So you spoke to Bob Oddy then.It does not surprise me that he would be unaware of recent moves, as again i repeat, that you and your organisation are not stakeholders and so are not invited to sit at the High table.The PCO are only involved in the distributing of the consultation surrounding advertising and the new identifier that will enable P/H TO BE RECOGNISED AS LICENSED taxi's as defined in the legislation enshrined in the 1998 ACT re-CRB CHECKS.This identifier will be part of TFL acceptance . I suspect that roadside signage may be altered to read as follows. "TFL APPROVED VEHICLES" and as the private hire trade are exactly that,could be game over.
further the mayor has refused to repeat his election pledges to you, and hasn't he already caused a mutiny by scrapping age limit restrictions
BUS LANE ACCESS FOR ALL PRIVATE HIRE USERS

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