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[quote="ALI T"][quote="Frank Lay"]It makes perfect sense for the council to charge the market value for a new plate, If they are able to be sold on then that is perfectly fair.

As for any new test centre, a company the size of lrt tests on their own premises. Smaller companies use Livingston for tests, driving tests etc.
So there is no need for somewhere else in the area for buses.[/quote]
yes but the market value is zero.
just ask the council.and the courts.

its only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

the council cannot make a profit from licenses fee's [b]period !!![/b]

this idea's a non starter unless someone can prove different[/quote]


As you say it is only worth what someone will pay for it, and that's the market value, and it's not zero.

You can say it is buying a company and not the plate, but that is just technicalities, in reality it is the plate that is being paid for.


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Dougie, why would the council be interested in the old B&Q at Stevenson, as a Vehicle Testing Centre? :shock:

The above information came from an interesting source. I was wondering if anyone knows anything?

:wink:

I've heard too!!! The council are seriously considering increasing the New Apps Fee to around the £40,000 mark, (a Labour councillor is taking the credit) This primarily is to restrict in another way the flow of plates but also allow the council to generate enough income to provide the Trade with a new Vehicle testing centre, of which you do agree is needed.

The site for this i heard could either be stevenson or gogar, this would then allow for the creation of a testing vehicle centre to cover all forms of current public transport excluding trams, meaning the Vehicles tested will include buses as well as Taxi's, Phc and maybe even emergency vehicles, if the centre is sited at gogar, trams will be included.

The vehicle testing centre will include many facilities including Steam cleaning ect.

£40,000 new apps fee is a carrott dangled too cec!!! so how much of a carrott do you feel being a part of the council grabbing such a Carrott :lol: :lol:


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It makes perfect sense for the council to charge the market value for a new plate, If they are able to be sold on then that is perfectly fair.

As for any new test centre, a company the size of lrt tests on their own premises. Smaller companies use Livingston for tests, driving tests etc.
So there is no need for somewhere else in the area for buses.


Jezus what planet are you two living on?? :oops:

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Frank Lay wrote:
It makes perfect sense for the council to charge the market value for a new plate, If they are able to be sold on then that is perfectly fair.

As for any new test centre, a company the size of lrt tests on their own premises. Smaller companies use Livingston for tests, driving tests etc.
So there is no need for somewhere else in the area for buses.

by that logic frank they would need to charge millions of pounds for a casino license.
cant see that happening can you :?:


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Jezus what planet are you two living on?? :oops:


glad I'm not the only one to notice,thought i was going insane there. :lol: :lol:


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[quote="ALI T"][quote="gusmac"]

Jezus what planet are you two living on?? :oops:[/quote]

glad I'm not the only one to notice,thought i was going insane there. :lol: :lol:[/quote][color=indigo][/color]


But the council is not allowing the issue of casino licences to people who only intend to sell the licence on to someone else.

Just look at the crowd from ecph and their friends that are going to court because they didnt get a plate recently.
One of them is from HAMPSHIRE, dont tell me he should get a plate or that he seriously want to operate an Edinburgh taxi. He only wants it to sell on.


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Frank Lay wrote:
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Jezus what planet are you two living on?? :oops:


glad I'm not the only one to notice,thought i was going insane there. :lol: :lol:



But the council is not allowing the issue of casino licences to people who only intend to sell the licence on to someone else.

Just look at the crowd from ecph and their friends that are going to court because they didnt get a plate recently.
One of them is from HAMPSHIRE, dont tell me he should get a plate or that he seriously want to operate an Edinburgh taxi. He only wants it to sell on.

they don't have to because they would simply go and get there own casino license for the small price of the application fee.
casino licenses are worth what every other public license is worth.......
feck all.

haven't we done this already with the pilot scenario of dougies,its pash
and Dougie knows its pash otherwise he would have been able to back up his claims,he couldn't because he was handicapped by the facts.

besides that not what you said and its not what i was responding to.

you said it was fair for the council to sell plates for 40k as long as they can be sold on.

the 40k must surely reflect in some way the value of the business,with an annual turnover of less than 50k.

that said! i compared that to the value of a casino's turnover and worked it backwards,and right enough a casino licenses would be worth millions.

however there not thats because this is pie in the sky nonsense.
dreamed up by really thick(Dougie and Eric Barrie) pll,who are that [edited by admin] scared of losing there status,and thats all it is,that they would resort to such utter madness.
i cannot believe that anyone would think this is a good idea,nor can i believe that anyone would actually believe that this is in anyway possible


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ALI T wrote:
Frank Lay wrote:
ALI T wrote:
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Jezus what planet are you two living on?? :oops:


glad I'm not the only one to notice,thought i was going insane there. :lol: :lol:



But the council is not allowing the issue of casino licences to people who only intend to sell the licence on to someone else.

Just look at the crowd from ecph and their friends that are going to court because they didnt get a plate recently.
One of them is from HAMPSHIRE, dont tell me he should get a plate or that he seriously want to operate an Edinburgh taxi. He only wants it to sell on.

they don't have to because they would simply go and get there own casino license for the small price of the application fee.
casino licenses are worth what every other public license is worth.......
feck all.

haven't we done this already with the pilot scenario of dougies,its pash
and Dougie knows its pash otherwise he would have been able to back up his claims,he couldn't because he was handicapped by the facts.

besides that not what you said and its not what i was responding to.

you said it was fair for the council to sell plates for 40k as long as they can be sold on.

the 40k must surely reflect in some way the value of the business,with an annual turnover of less than 50k.

that said! i compared that to the value of a casino's turnover and worked it backwards,and right enough a casino licenses would be worth millions.

however there not thats because this is pie in the sky nonsense.
dreamed up by really thick(Dougie and Eric Barrie) pll,who are that [edited by admin] scared of losing there status,and thats all it is,that they would resort to such utter madness.
i cannot believe that anyone would think this is a good idea,nor can i believe that anyone would actually believe that this is in anyway possible

Just a wee point on Casino Licences!!! THERE IS A LIMIT on how many Casino's that can operate within a Town/City, gambling maybe taxfree but the trade is heavily regulated :wink:

On the 40k we will see? :D :D :wink: :wink:

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piish :lol:


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Dougie the council has orchestrated the current situ so that the courts decide what happens.
they are doing this so that they get rid of the ipl.
get rid of the current apps.
and if they ever have to de-restrict,then they are not to blame because the courts made them do it.

and you think after freeing themselves of this possible obligation that they would then offer to guarantee your investment :lol:


what don't you get about this.
this is not about you, and you being looked after by the system,its about the system looking after itself.


only a fool would believe otherwise.

you paid yer money and took yer chances
stop bleating on, its pathetic.


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ALI T wrote:
Dougie the council has orchestrated the current situ so that the courts decide what happens.
they are doing this so that they get rid of the ipl.
get rid of the current apps.
and if they ever have to de-restrict,then they are not to blame because the courts made them do it.

and you think after freeing themselves of this possible obligation that they would then offer to guarantee your investment :lol:


what don't you get about this.
this is not about you, and you being looked after by the system,its about the system looking after itself.


only a fool would believe otherwise.

you paid yer money and took yer chances
stop bleating on, its pathetic.


Imagine being so inadequate you need to wear a taxi and plate like a badge of honour? :roll: They appear to think buying into the council's plate scam, gives them some sort of super cabby status. I sometime wonder how pathetic and desperate one would have to be to believe this nonsense.




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As desperate and pathetic as Dougie IO suspect.

What is it they say? A fool and his mind are easily parted :lol:

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As desperate and pathetic as Dougie IO suspect.

What is it they say? A fool and his mind are easily parted :lol:



Sad but true eusasmiles.zip :D

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ALI T wrote:
Dougie the council has orchestrated the current situ so that the courts decide what happens.
they are doing this so that they get rid of the ipl.
get rid of the current apps.
and if they ever have to de-restrict,then they are not to blame because the courts made them do it.

and you think after freeing themselves of this possible obligation that they would then offer to guarantee your investment :lol:


what don't you get about this.
this is not about you, and you being looked after by the system,its about the system looking after itself.


only a fool would believe otherwise.

you paid yer money and took yer chances
stop bleating on, its pathetic.

The Money i paid is EH insignificant :D 17k :wink: 9 years ago :D The profit on that EH :?: :wink: :wink: Win Win :D

You are missing the point on the idea of Higher New Apps fee!!! The council will NOT be SELLING anything :D It will be as it is i'm afraid, 40k to operate the plate, the plate will be still owned by the council, as it is. :wink: We the current operators will trade the operational rights as we currently do :wink: The higher Fee is another way too RESTRICT and any increases in plates will still be subject to Survey's of demand, the higher fee eliminates the carpetbaggers from the guy's who genuinly want to operate a plate, making it easier to allocate any increases in plates. Guy's who genuinly want to operate a plate will have no problem paying 40k as they currently do :D This way any investor has the potential to get much of their investment back as currently happens :D This system is Fair and without discrimination :D :D :D :D

40k is only a figure, it may be more, it maybe less but will reflect the level of investment as is :D

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“A Taxi Licence Plate has no intrinsic value”, Donald Anderson (ex. Council Leader).

“Licence Plates are non transferable”, Donald Anderson (ex. Council Leader) and the Civic Government Scotland Act 1982.


Dougie, get a fecking grip. . .
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“A Taxi Licence Plate has no intrinsic value”, Donald Anderson (ex. Council Leader).

“Licence Plates are non transferable”, Donald Anderson (ex. Council Leader) and the Civic Government Scotland Act 1982.


Dougie, get a fecking grip. . .
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

A value can be created as another way of restriction nudge nudge :wink: :wink: Keep up your mission this created value is the result of your actions not mine :D :D

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