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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 11:08 pm 
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What uber is doing throughout the world isn't what its doing here


I've tried to explain that to Dougie but he refuses to see it. #-o

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 11:11 pm 
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I've tried to explain that to Dougie but he refuses to see it. #-o


what they are doing outside of London is perfectly legal - the thing they are doing in London in respect of the fare charged is being taken to court - it will be resolved

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 11:18 pm 
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I've tried to explain that to Dougie but he refuses to see it. #-o


what they are doing outside of London is perfectly legal - the thing they are doing in London in respect of the fare charged is being taken to court - it will be resolved


Yeah but if Uber wants to keep moving the goalposts there is not a council in the country that could take them to court. Edinburgh council has a huge black hole in its finances as it is, so they are not about to fight Uber through the courts for a bunch of cabbies and as for the Scottish Government, they will compromise on how the current legislation is applied. It will be, you scratch my back... :-|

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I've tried to explain that to Dougie but he refuses to see it. #-o


what they are doing outside of London is perfectly legal - the thing they are doing in London in respect of the fare charged is being taken to court - it will be resolved


Yeah but if Uber wants to keep moving the goalposts there is not a council in the country that could take them to court. Edinburgh council has a huge black hole in its finances as it is, so they are not about to fight Uber through the courts for a bunch of cabbies and as for the Scottish Government, they will compromise on how the current legislation is applied. It will be, you scratch my back... :-|


I would imagine it would be easier to prosecute any individual drivers breaking the law. Their pockets aren't quite so deep.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 11:32 pm 
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Yeah but if Uber wants to keep moving the goalposts there is not a council in the country that could take them to court. Edinburgh council has a huge black hole in its finances as it is, so they are not about to fight Uber through the courts for a bunch of cabbies and as for the Scottish Government, they will compromise on how the current legislation is applied. It will be, you scratch my back... :-|



all UBER have done is apply - as they should for a PH operators license from Edinburgh Council isn't it?

If that's right, it hardly suggests they will suddenly change tact and look down different avenues.

The UK cab trade should be thankful we have a two tier system that cover the likes of UBER - many other countries don't.

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Yeah but if Uber wants to keep moving the goalposts there is not a council in the country that could take them to court. Edinburgh council has a huge black hole in its finances as it is, so they are not about to fight Uber through the courts for a bunch of cabbies and as for the Scottish Government, they will compromise on how the current legislation is applied. It will be, you scratch my back... :-|



all UBER have done is apply - as they should for a PH operators license from Edinburgh Council isn't it?

If that's right, it hardly suggests they will suddenly change tact and look down different avenues.

The UK cab trade should be thankful we have a two tier system that cover the likes of UBER - many other countries don't.


I really don't see how the current legislation applies to a technology platform. I know it is being used but really, an app on your phone that puts the customer in contact with the driver and a billing facility for the service provided. #-o Speaking hypothetically, why should Uber care who signs up for their technology, it's not up to them to regulate the drivers it's up to the council and the government. :-|

Uber doesn't even have to be in the country for someone to download the app or to use its services. :shock:

I think Uber are playing ball because it suites them and not because they have to. :-|

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 12:03 am 
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I really don't see how the current legislation applies to a technology platform. I know it is being used but really, an app on your phone that puts the customer in contact with the driver and a billing facility for the service provided. #-o Speaking hypothetically, why should Uber care who signs up for their technology, it's not up to them to regulate the drivers it's up to the council and the government. :-|

Uber doesn't even have to be in the country for someone to download the app or to use its services. :shock:

I think Uber are playing ball because it suites them and not because they have to. :-|


In Scotland, as in the rest of the UK they must be licensed operators

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 12:31 am 
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captain cab wrote:
Skull wrote:

I really don't see how the current legislation applies to a technology platform. I know it is being used but really, an app on your phone that puts the customer in contact with the driver and a billing facility for the service provided. #-o Speaking hypothetically, why should Uber care who signs up for their technology, it's not up to them to regulate the drivers it's up to the council and the government. :-|

Uber doesn't even have to be in the country for someone to download the app or to use its services. :shock:

I think Uber are playing ball because it suites them and not because they have to. :-|


In Scotland, as in the rest of the UK they must be licensed operators


Maybe so but strictly speaking Uber is a technology platform and not at taxi company. Is it that different to my ebay or amazon app which bills me for the books I buy?

I think the legislation being used is at a stretch when being applied to technology. :-|

Either way Edinburgh is ripe for the picking and that simply comes down to the way the Edinburgh companies operate. ECPH is fu*ed because its radio dues are so expensive while City and CRT are top heavy in every way imaginable. You can't keep hiking radio dues to buy work when up against a company the likes of Uber. :-|

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TUSCALOOSA, Alabama -- Tuscaloosa was willing to waive or amend more than half of the city codes that would regulate Uber drivers, but negotiations that would bring the app-based ride-sharing service to the city are on the verge of collapse, a city official said Monday.

Responding to Uber's allegations that city officials have been unwilling to collaborate or compromise since the service launched in Tuscaloosa last month, Deidre Stalnaker, the city's s Public Relations Coordinator, said the opposite is true.

"We identified 11 points in the city's codes and regulations that would affect Uber and their drivers and we were willing to waive or amend seven of them," Stalnaker said. "That's more than half."

Among the regulations Stalnaker said the city was willing to be flexible on: requiring all cars offering transportation services to follow a consistent color scheme like traditional taxis do, having all drivers wear an identifiable uniform, tracking trip logs and passenger reports and several more.

Stalnaker said the four codes on which the city would not compromise were those that ensured the safety of Uber's passengers in the city -- those requiring vehicle inspections and background checks run by the Tuscaloosa, those laying out specific insurance requirements for chauffeurs and the requirement that Uber purchase a business license to operate in the city.

Instead of agreeing to meet those four conditions, Uber has tried to explain why those rules shouldn't apply to them.

Sgt. Brent Blankley of the Tuscaloosa Police Department said Uber told city officials to simply trust in the efficiency of their own checks, checks which failed to keep an Uber driver from driving on a suspended license, carrying a open liter of peach vodka and a quarter pound of marijuana.

"They simply say their background checks are good and we should trust them," Blankley said. "They will not supply any documentation to back it up even after we have asked for it."

Stalnaker said the San Francisco-based company also claims there is no need for them to buy business licenses because none exist that apply to the services they offer. Stalnaker disagreed and said compliance would only cost Uber around $100 per driver.

These differences have carved a rift between the city of Tuscaloosa and Uber so deep that the police department, which began last month to warn drivers that they were violating city code then moved to issuing them citations. Blankley said Sunday that beginning this week, TPD would be cracking down further and arresting drivers who break the laws.

Both parties have said if things go that far and a driver is arrested, negotiations to make Uber work in Tuscaloosa will likely end.

Billy Guernier, the general manager for Uber Tuscaloosa, said he flew to the Druid City last month to meet its mayor, Walt Maddox, but never got an audience. Stalnaker said the city has no record of Guernier reaching out to arrange a meeting by phone, email or any other method.

I think that should explain every thing Gary, you must obey the laws of the land.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:34 am 
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Nice one Flower :D

Skull it'll take Uber years to fight a change in legislation :lol:

It's not going to happen anytime soon :roll:

BTW the last big worldwide company to try and take Edinburgh was ComCab :lol: :lol:

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Nice one Flower :D

Skull it'll take Uber years to fight a change in legislation :lol:

It's not going to happen anytime soon :roll:

BTW the last big worldwide company to try and take Edinburgh was ComCab :lol: :lol:


Jesus, you pair are delusional. #-o #-o Uber is already in the UK and complying with the legislation. How you think the above has any relevance to Uber arriving in Edinburgh is beyond me.

Oh and Dougie, Uber isn't fighting to change Legislation all they do is apply for a judicial review of the current legislation and how it is being applied to them. #-o #-o #-o

My comment was hypothetical. Christ can't you read?????

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Oh and America has laws that differ from state to state. Alabama!!!! FU*K MEE.... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Alabama!!!! FU*K MEE.... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

If you go there, they might. If you ask nicely. :mrgreen:

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Alabama!!!! FU*K MEE.... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

If you go there, they might. If you ask nicely. :mrgreen:


only if he squeals like a piggy :lol: :lol: :lol:

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captain cab wrote:
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Alabama!!!! FU*K MEE.... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

If you go there, they might. If you ask nicely. :mrgreen:


only if he squeals like a piggy :lol: :lol: :lol:




Hypothetical squeals only lol


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