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I always wondered why so many Delta drivers knew the Samaritans phone number off by heart, Oh by the way, I am organising a charity clay pigeon shoot very soon would you like to come...

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

Adverts for Samaritans, Campaign Against Living Miserably (CALM) and Addaction are being displayed on the back doors of Delta taxis. This is after Delta Garages, based on Mersey Road, Blundellsands, donated the space on its own fleet of 100 private hire rental cars to the three worthy causes.Bosses at Delta, which has its headquarters on Moor Lane, Crosby, also covered all costs for artwork, printing and installation. Delta company secretary, Paul McLaughlin, said the gesture seemed “such a simple thing to do.” He added: “There’s nothing fluffy or appealing about depression or addiction, making the promotion of these charities even more of a challenge. “The valuable work they do is no less important, however, so Delta was more than happy to assist in raising their profile with this simple gesture.”.[/quote] Chris Jardin, general manager of one of Liverpool's largest firms, Davy Liver Cabs, fears any private hire firm that wants to carry adverts may have a hidden agenda to promote its own brand. Perhaps Mr Jardin should apologize. Perhaps Mr Jardin is a pessimist, mined you, what the [edited by admin] has it got to do with him, what you lot in Sefton do. I took onboard what you said was wrong, with the Liverpool hackney trade . Most of it is well known . I have copied it, removed your name and sent it off, to Our Licensing committee. Rest asssured, there is more chance of you putting 20000 cars on the road, by the end of the year. Than Our licensing committee even giving it a second look . You never explaned why you think putting a free phone in Liverpool was illegal regards streetcars

I'm far from expert in such legal matters but it appears to me the crux of the matter lies with the 1976 Act's decription of a 'provision' being the 'invitation OR acceptance of a booking.' A store phone may display a taxi advert but whilst the handset permits calls to be made to anywhere it 's still just a store phone. If however the store phone only permits calls made to a neighbouring taxi office then this constitutes an extention of that taxi office which for many, including Liverpool and Sefton puts the store phone into the 'provision' category.

Liverpool Licensing are happy for Delta to have free-phones in Liverpool stores so long as we acquire a Liverpool operator's licence and undertake to dispatch all bookings accepted via these Liverpool provisions to Liverpool licensed drivers in Liverpool licensed cars. So we can technically accept bookings from Liverpool free-phones but we can't cover these jobs with any of our existing drivers. If any of our drivers rebadged and replated from Sefton to Liverpool to qualify for the Liverpool free-phone work then they'd be disqualified from the 50,000 passengers a day booking taxis via our Sefton provision.

It wouldn't be economical or environmentally friendly for us to run two separate wings, one taking bookings for Liverpool drivers and cars and the other taking bookings for Sefton drivers and cars unless the law permitted us to distribute bookings between both wings but it won't. We therefore have to plum for one or the other, and whilst that remains to be Sefton, Liverpool free-phones are out of the question. We could try challenging a free-phone's description as a provision through the courts but previous verdicts on this one matter seem to have gone a different way every time a court hears it, you may as well toss a coin!

At the end of the day, many Liverpool stores already have Liverpool private hire free-phones and Liverpool Hackneys outside the door and customers STILL use their mobile phone to book a Delta, so it's not really worth pursuing the matter. We've bigger fish to fry...

Regards

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Don't knock it, 'til you try it....

Liverpool can say and do what they please, but the law says if your company wants to put a free-phone anywhere in Liverpool then they can. And that phone can be serviced 100% by your own area cars.

Don't know if you are part of the NPHA, but if you are then I'm sure Mr Roland would give you the full SP. If not then give Kearns & Co or Mr Button a ring.

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IDFIMH

But surely it's not just shops, it's hotels, restaurants, cinemas etc.

Or dare I say airports.

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IDFIMH

"operate" means in the course of business to make provision for the invitation or acceptance of bookings for a private hire vehicle;

The Bromsgrove case sets out quite clearly that provison is not made by putting a direct line from one authority to another. The provision is made in the office were the booking is accepted and not where the call might have originated.

Held - s 80(1) of the 1976 Act provides that operate means 'in the course of business to make provisions for the invitation or acceptance of bookings for a private hire vehicle'. In each case whilst the invitation may have been made in Birmingham the booking was accepted in Bromsgrove. Although the appellants held operators' licences issued both by Birmingham as well as by Bromsgrove in relation to the Bromsgrove operation, they were not entitled to operate private hire vehicles which were not licensed by and driven by drivers licensed by Bromsgrove District Council.

The placing of direct lines in any building in the Liverpool licensing area has nothing whatsoever to do with Liverpool City council or any other council.

I suspect the reason why Delta don't put direct lines in Liverpool locations is because of the economics attached to the complete process. There is nothing whatsoever in law stopping Delta or anyone else placing freephones in any building in the country. That is not me saying that but Lord Justice KENNEDY and Justic JOWITT.

Have a read of the Bromsgrove case it might put your mind at ease?

http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/vie ... php?t=3808

Regards

JD

Sussex seems to think its legal; we will see what JD thinks. Liverpool licensing as there recent visit to London, trying to get a change in the law, to make your drivers, if they get a fare to Liverpool. Drop the fare off and proceed back to Sefton. Before they can return to Liverpool, for another fare. What law that was, no one knows not even Liverpool council. They seem to think there above the law . The laws they don’t like. They think they there so important, the government will change them to suit them. So i would not pay to much attention to what Liverpool council think.


All free phones are probably on so kind of contract .If in future the mood takes you. I am sure; you would not have a problem replacing Liverpool PH. I don’t think there are that many free phones in Liverpool. There is just a rank of, I am sad to say over priced, black cabs out side. You may as well put the hacks down now, humanely rather this long lingering death, that the Liverpool hack trade is suffering from. The future is Private hire, the future is very much Delta. Any jobs ! regards streetcars

Call me an old softie, and lack of imagination, even stuck in a time-warp, but maybe, just maybe, it's time to be pushing for a Merseyside plate, I wonder if the opposition would come from the trade or would it come from licensing officers in different areas, after all five people who are now in charge would have to make up their minds which one would be boss.................??????

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

It would come from Liverpool plate-holders in relation to taxis, and from all PH operators in relation to PH.

Both sh** scared of drivers having choice.

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IDFIMH

And the talks: go on, round one , I believe they wanted £2 a cab, the logic was or is that it is not as busy as Manchester..

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

Is that two pounds per day?

Regards

JD

My apologies, it should have read £2 per job

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

Providing the council add it to the tariff, and that lot up there will do anything, then surely that's problem solved.

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IDFIMH

Not being funny with you Sussex, I do not know if it has been reported in your local papers, but they are also trying to charge every passenger Two pound extra for using the airport.. bigger picture?

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!