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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:01 am 
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i think the problem lies with many taxi operators and drivers out there think we limo operators are taking work away from them



Indeed. :-k

I’m forever jealous of the clientele that uses Limousine services, it’s nice to know that their giro's are saved and put to good use every so often.
They bear more than a passing resemblance to those who drive them, club numbers and all.

I'd rather pick up people waiting outside a Minicab office, and that's saying something. :D


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POLICY APPROACH TO ACCESSIBLE TAXIS


The mobility and inclusion unit want to get their act together, we've been waiting years for the Secretary of state to make a decision on this issue? The options are pretty clear as far as i'm concerned and Europe went a long way in advertising that fact.

This document is nine month old and outdated, if the DfT cant make a decision on this issue then they should pack up and leave it to someone who can. After all, nothing has changed in the last 160 years apart from horse drawn carriages being substituted by motor vehicles. So if we consider that nothing is likely to change in the next 160 years then the options available now will certainly be the same in the foreseable future?

So get on with it Mr Secretary of state.

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Tomorrow evening i have a meeting with some large taxi ops in the midlands who are not at all happy with this very criteria and ruling


What new ruling?

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There you are JD a proper bone fide shedule 6 operator at your service.
Good evening Mr. A Class, it is good to see someone on here with the first hand knowlege of this system that us ordinary limo ops are a bit short of. Welcome.


I just read his faq and I don't see anything that says, "he is legally licensed to carry passengers for hire or reward"? Is that an intentional omission or just forgetfulness?

http://www.aclasslimos.co.uk/faq.html

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There you are JD a proper bone fide shedule 6 operator at your service.
Good evening Mr. A Class, it is good to see someone on here with the first hand knowlege of this system that us ordinary limo ops are a bit short of. Welcome.


I just read his faq and I don't see anything that says, "he is legally licensed to carry passengers for hire or reward"? Is that an intentional omission or just forgetfulness?

http://www.aclasslimos.co.uk/faq.html

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As far as I am aware A Class does not do hire or reward.

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As far as I am aware A Class does not do hire or reward.


So he offers his services and vehicles 4 free does he?

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S6 Conversion specialist. wrote:
Tomorrow evening i have a meeting with some large taxi ops in the midlands who are not at all happy with this very criteria and ruling so i will post facts and hopefully links to documents to prove this if they are actually on the net yet.

From my experience large taxi ops know nothing about the taxi trade, other than how to have a good chat about putting it right. :shock:

TBH I don't mind all taxis being WAVs, it's a far better way than saying some drivers should pay £10,000 for a new motor, and others having to pay up to £35,000. :sad:

But 100% WAVs will not happen via the DfT or the EU.

The EU document that has been posted on here is a political mess to maintain MEPs in their jobs. It will be supported by MPs as they also wish to keep their jobs.

As for what councils will do, who knows? But maybe some of them are the weak link. :wink:

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grandad wrote:
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There you are JD a proper bone fide shedule 6 operator at your service.
Good evening Mr. A Class, it is good to see someone on here with the first hand knowlege of this system that us ordinary limo ops are a bit short of. Welcome.


I just read his faq and I don't see anything that says, "he is legally licensed to carry passengers for hire or reward"? Is that an intentional omission or just forgetfulness?

http://www.aclasslimos.co.uk/faq.html

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JD


As far as I am aware A Class does not do hire or reward.


Does that mean his 8 seater chrysler and bently go out for nothing then? or does he get 16 in them also? :lol:

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Ok it seems that all H/C vehicles will have to be WAV,s but PH will carry on with saloons.

Its in the DDA act apparently.


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grandad wrote:
There you are JD a proper bone fide shedule 6 operator at your service.
Good evening Mr. A Class, it is good to see someone on here with the first hand knowlege of this system that us ordinary limo ops are a bit short of. Welcome.


I just read his faq and I don't see anything that says, "he is legally licensed to carry passengers for hire or reward"? Is that an intentional omission or just forgetfulness?

http://www.aclasslimos.co.uk/faq.html

Regards

JD


As far as I am aware A Class does not do hire or reward.


Does that mean his 8 seater chrysler and bently go out for nothing then? or does he get 16 in them also? :lol:


Perhaps he used the contract exemption. Why not ring him and ask him.

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MR T wrote:
POLICY APPROACH TO ACCESSIBLE TAXIS


The mobility and inclusion unit want to get their act together, we've been waiting years for the Secretary of state to make a decision on this issue? The options are pretty clear as far as i'm concerned and Europe went a long way in advertising that fact.

This document is nine month old and outdated, if the DfT cant make a decision on this issue then they should pack up and leave it to someone who can. After all, nothing has changed in the last 160 years apart from horse drawn carriages being substituted by motor vehicles. So if we consider that nothing is likely to change in the next 160 years then the options available now will certainly be the same in the foreseable future?


So get on with it Mr Secretary of state.

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JD


Now let me see, I posted the document but made no comment, I obviously thought that people would make of it what they will, form their own conclusions, how many years now is it that they have been trying to make up their own minds on what they think we should have, November 2006 still they do not know, it might possibly have something to do with the ever changing opinions of the disabled lobby, but one thing is for certain, and that is if they don't sort it out before the next election it could become very interesting, if say a different party were to be elected it would start from the beginning again, new party, new priorities, new ministers, but the same old cab trade.

I am sure they would love for the whole of the cab trade to be wheelchair accessible, think of how many more ambulances and personnel they could do away with.

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S6 Conversion specialist. wrote:
Ok it seems that all H/C vehicles will have to be WAV,s but PH will carry on with saloons.

Its in the DDA act apparently.

Well it's not, but hey ho.

I believe there is no chance of a 100% UK WAV taxi fleet. Even less chance of a 100% PH version.

Whenever anyone tells you different just ask them where it is written in black and white. As most people driving cabs and PHs know f*** all.

Bless them. :wink:

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S6 Conversion specialist. wrote:
Ok it seems that all H/C vehicles will have to be WAV,s but PH will carry on with saloons.

Its in the DDA act apparently.

Well it's not, but hey ho.

I believe there is no chance of a 100% UK WAV taxi fleet. Even less chance of a 100% PH version.

Whenever anyone tells you different just ask them where it is written in black and white. As most people driving cabs and PHs know f*** all.

Bless them. :wink:


And where would it be written that the self drive hire is illegal.

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S6 Conversion specialist. wrote:
Ok it seems that all H/C vehicles will have to be WAV,s but PH will carry on with saloons.

Its in the DDA act apparently.


Yes, and that was passed in 1995, and an informal consultation document was issued a couple of years later.

But nothing concrete as yet, and the couple of public pronouncements from the DfT on the subject have all backtracked slightly from the original ethos.

And don't forget that the DDA specified nothing about accessible taxis; all it did was give the Govt powers to make regulations in that regard, but nothing has happened as yet.

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