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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 10:13 pm 
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It is a decent time to use it again, so go ahead 'make my day', use it again!!


Leeches!

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The leeches are there because the trade sat there and did nothing. In fact I'd go as far as to say that some unions and trade reps possitively started the ball rolling with this 'training' and continued to benefit even after it became apparent that it wasn't entirely appropriate 'training' at all

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The leeches are there because the trade sat there and did nothing. In fact I'd go as far as to say that some unions and trade reps possitively started the ball rolling with this 'training' and continued to benefit even after it became apparent that it wasn't entirely appropriate 'training' at all


I agree.....blame the trade reps and unions.

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Our LO was talking about a meeting he had with other LOs from Scotland and NI. He mentioned a company called Go Skills, who didn't rate the btec. Anyone heard of them? They may be coming our way soon.


Steer clear of them Grumps, they were knocking around our way until the drivers realised they were on a gravy train. Captain Cab didn't have anything to do with it with his write up in Taxi Talk. :lol: :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:39 am 
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The leeches are there because the trade sat there and did nothing. In fact I'd go as far as to say that some unions and trade reps possitively started the ball rolling with this 'training' and continued to benefit even after it became apparent that it wasn't entirely appropriate 'training' at all


I agree.....blame the trade reps and unions.

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I blame you :D :shock:


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I agree.....blame the trade reps and unions.

Some of them are the biggest crooks, sorry leeches. :shock:

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:48 am 
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captain cab wrote:
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It is a decent time to use it again, so go ahead 'make my day', use it again!!


Leeches!

:wink:

CC


The leeches are there because the trade sat there and did nothing. In fact I'd go as far as to say that some unions and trade reps possitively started the ball rolling with this 'training' and continued to benefit even after it became apparent that it wasn't entirely appropriate 'training' at all

so the 103 of us who got suspended for refusing do it in Bournemouth did nothing eh thanks :cry: :cry:


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so the 103 of us who got suspended for refusing do it in Bournemouth did nothing eh thanks


I'll have to read the case but I don't remember seeing there being 103 of you at court. There is more than one way to skin a rabbit and flatly refusing to take the course is just one of them, working with the providers to ensure that the course was appropriate is another. I also have my doubts as to whether your representation was giving it's all considering it was probably provided by a union that may have had a vested interest in the couse in the first place. It's was never my intention to undermine the efforts of these drivers and I'm sorry if that's how you took it

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If my memory serves me correctly didn't the T&G shaft drivers over training in Bournemouth?

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If my memory serves me correctly didn't the T&G shaft drivers over training in Bournemouth?

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not sure it seemed to be handled secretly by various guttersnipes eg the council a local association and maybe a union still cant get any truth or reason after 6 long years of LO lies thanks for showing interest


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If my memory serves me correctly didn't the T&G shaft drivers over training in Bournemouth?

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not sure it seemed to be handled secretly by various guttersnipes eg the council a local association and maybe a union still cant get any truth or reason after 6 long years of LO lies thanks for showing interest


The interest is there because Bournemouth is held up like a beacon by the pro training lobby, indeed some councils falsely mention a high court case regarding your council and your local rebels, as you may confirm, the cases went as far as the lower courts, not high courts.

I also seem to believe some of those in the union locally fixed the
selves up with training jobs?

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If my memory serves me correctly didn't the T&G shaft drivers over training in Bournemouth?

CC

not sure it seemed to be handled secretly by various guttersnipes eg the council a local association and maybe a union still cant get any truth or reason after 6 long years of LO lies thanks for showing interest


The interest is there because Bournemouth is held up like a beacon by the pro training lobby, indeed some councils falsely mention a high court case regarding your council and your local rebels, as you may confirm, the cases went as far as the lower courts, not high courts.

I also seem to believe some of those in the union locally fixed the
selves up with training jobs?

yep theres no shortage of spivs down ere ready to sell us out
was there not a group of lads somewhere in the midlands who took their
**** council to court and won 5k each ? maybe we should their legal bloke
:) :)


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yep theres no shortage of spivs down ere ready to sell us out
was there not a group of lads somewhere in the midlands who took their
**** council to court and won 5k each ? maybe we should their legal bloke
:) :)


It was Loughborough (Charnwood district)

The articles here;

http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/news/Cabbies-want-exam-axed/article-1195608-detail/article.html

Taxi drivers want exam axed


Cabbies are calling for the scrapping of a rule that they must pass an exam before getting a licence.

Taxi drivers say they should not have to take the Btec in passenger transportation – a condition required by Charnwood Borough Council.

Three Loughborough drivers had their licences suspended in February for refusing to take the £120 course.

The council told all cabbies in 2006 they had three years to get the qualification, and made all new applicants take the course.

Zaher and Pyrarali Zamani and Martin Thornber were suspended when they refused and took the council to court.

A judge overturned their ban while awarding legal costs of more than £5,713 against the borough council.

After the hearing their solicitor, David Leigh, said: "They did not see any merit in paying £120 to take a course they did not think would make them any better at jobs they have years of experience doing.

"Having seen some of the questions that make up the exam, I am not surprised. They are ridiculously easy.

"One of my clients did not do the course but took the exam and got 100%. I think that tells you the value of the qualification. Anyone who doesn't pass this is not fit for anything, let alone driving a cab."

Only Charnwood and Bournemouth borough councils have made it compulsory for drivers to have the Btec.

Mr Leigh said: "Councils are hardly queuing up to follow their lead, probably because it is pointless and unpopular. Some 400 cabbies in Charnwood have, however, had to pay out £120."

The suspension of the three drivers was put on hold while the appeal was being sorted and they can now carry on driving without the threat of being forced from their jobs.

Zaher Zamani, of A1 Taxis in Loughborough, said: "I'm glad the judge supported our position. We should never have been suspended and we should never have had to come to court."

Noel Bertram, spokesman for Charnwood Taxi Association, has passed the exam but believes it is not needed. He said: "In most cases it's teaching grandma to suck eggs and it's about time the council dropped this."

Council licensing manager Malcolm Burton said: "The policy isn't changing and it won't be changing.

"The judge did not attack the policy. He made his ruling on whether it was right to suspend the three drivers. We are taking legal advice on whether to appeal against his decision.

"Drivers who take the Btec learn very valuable things like how to manage disabled customers properly.

''It is helpful and we think the public needs to know drivers have a certain standard of professionalism.

"I can't say much about the questions. We don't set them. They are written by the trade for the trade."

Leicester taxi drivers do not have to pass any exams to get a licence but more than 130 have voluntarily taken an NVQ2 in road passenger vehicle driving.

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so the 103 of us who got suspended for refusing do it in Bournemouth did nothing eh thanks


I'll have to read the case but I don't remember seeing there being 103 of you at court. There is more than one way to skin a rabbit and flatly refusing to take the course is just one of them, working with the providers to ensure that the course was appropriate is another. I also have my doubts as to whether your representation was giving it's all considering it was probably provided by a union that may have had a vested interest in the couse in the first place. It's was never my intention to undermine the efforts of these drivers and I'm sorry if that's how you took it

how much dosh have you managed to slurp from the trough toots ? :shock:


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captain cab wrote:
lawman wrote:
yep theres no shortage of spivs down ere ready to sell us out
was there not a group of lads somewhere in the midlands who took their
**** council to court and won 5k each ? maybe we should their legal bloke
:) :)


It was Loughborough (Charnwood district)

The articles here;

http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/news/Cabbies-want-exam-axed/article-1195608-detail/article.html

Taxi drivers want exam axed


Cabbies are calling for the scrapping of a rule that they must pass an exam before getting a licence.

Taxi drivers say they should not have to take the Btec in passenger transportation – a condition required by Charnwood Borough Council.

Three Loughborough drivers had their licences suspended in February for refusing to take the £120 course.

The council told all cabbies in 2006 they had three years to get the qualification, and made all new applicants take the course.

Zaher and Pyrarali Zamani and Martin Thornber were suspended when they refused and took the council to court.

A judge overturned their ban while awarding legal costs of more than £5,713 against the borough council.

After the hearing their solicitor, David Leigh, said: "They did not see any merit in paying £120 to take a course they did not think would make them any better at jobs they have years of experience doing.

"Having seen some of the questions that make up the exam, I am not surprised. They are ridiculously easy.

"One of my clients did not do the course but took the exam and got 100%. I think that tells you the value of the qualification. Anyone who doesn't pass this is not fit for anything, let alone driving a cab."

Only Charnwood and Bournemouth borough councils have made it compulsory for drivers to have the Btec.

Mr Leigh said: "Councils are hardly queuing up to follow their lead, probably because it is pointless and unpopular. Some 400 cabbies in Charnwood have, however, had to pay out £120."

The suspension of the three drivers was put on hold while the appeal was being sorted and they can now carry on driving without the threat of being forced from their jobs.

Zaher Zamani, of A1 Taxis in Loughborough, said: "I'm glad the judge supported our position. We should never have been suspended and we should never have had to come to court."

Noel Bertram, spokesman for Charnwood Taxi Association, has passed the exam but believes it is not needed. He said: "In most cases it's teaching grandma to suck eggs and it's about time the council dropped this."

Council licensing manager Malcolm Burton said: "The policy isn't changing and it won't be changing.

"The judge did not attack the policy. He made his ruling on whether it was right to suspend the three drivers. We are taking legal advice on whether to appeal against his decision.

"Drivers who take the Btec learn very valuable things like how to manage disabled customers properly.

''It is helpful and we think the public needs to know drivers have a certain standard of professionalism.

"I can't say much about the questions. We don't set them. They are written by the trade for the trade."

Leicester taxi drivers do not have to pass any exams to get a licence but more than 130 have voluntarily taken an NVQ2 in road passenger vehicle driving.

Thanks Captain what a fine bunch of lads with spine does that sily tart from goskills know of that ?
btw is there a big brain out there who knows what the final cost of this comedy will be ie total number of drivers in the land multiplied by the extortionate cost per course :?:


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The interest is there because Bournemouth is held up like a beacon by the pro training lobby,

I've mentioned it before on here when one of the training leeches made a big thing about the way Bournemouth Council acted against some of their drivers.

In front of councillors, licensing officers, trade members and a few hangers on, I put the c*** right. :wink:

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