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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 7:34 pm 
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It as only really happened this last year if you ask vehicle licensing they say its to do with a driver either owing money to a operator well if an operator is so stupid not to take a weeks rent up from i.e its what's called a bond and that's sort that issue if a driver doesn't return radio equipment the police will tell a driver to return it or its theft i know I've owned a firm. And stopping people changing firm is not right no matter what im up for the fight but how do you take legal action and who pays the legal bills when its an issue involving every ph and hack driver in Leeds

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It as only really happened this last year if you ask vehicle licensing they say its to do with a driver either owing money to a operator well if an operator is so stupid not to take a weeks rent up from i.e its what's called a bond and that's sort that issue if a driver doesn't return radio equipment the police will tell a driver to return it or its theft i know I've owned a firm.

100% illegal. [-X

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why do i have to hand in my badge if stop working as a driver, even if only for a few months?

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why do i have to hand in my badge if stop working as a driver, even if only for a few months?

Indeed why?

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Under the LG(MP)A 1976 a private hire can only be booked through an operator so it would seem pretty obvious why a driver or vehicle licence would have the operators name on to which you were working.

Under the same act a condition can be attached that the operator must hold the licences of all drivers and vehicles registered unde the operators licence which is the case in Leeds.

Without these conditions you would have private hire ilegally plying for hire and not working for any private hire operator.

If a private hire worked for multiple private hire companies then how would the customer know which company they were from or would you expect them to display 2 or 3 different company names.

You need a letter in Leeds from the the company which you are going to work for to authorise the council putting you on their operators licence otherwise people could give any company name and never even work for them. The letter you need for leaving a company is to say you have returned the equipment to the company you are leaving. Going back to the old radio days drivers would keep a radio and if near an address that was given over the radio would pick the job up before the vehicle that was sent for the job arrived.


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I don't see an issue having a letter from the companies you work or worked for , if you don't owe any money or keep any equipment that doesn't belong to you why have a problem ?? .... My only issue here as APH states is the condition that ph will ply for hire ???? Remember Saturday night on woodhouse lane APH they do anyway !!!!! Lol

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If a driver can only work for one operator then he cannot be self employed by the rules laid down by HMRC.
If a driver falls out with the company he is registered with, what is to stop that company "delaying" writing the letter to the council thus stopping the driver working for anyone else?

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Under the LG(MP)A 1976 a private hire can only be booked through an operator so it would seem pretty obvious why a driver or vehicle licence would have the operators name on to which you were working.

And what happens if they wish to work with a number of different operators?

And why does the council want the operator's name on the driver's badge? Why not just on the application form?

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Without these conditions you would have private hire ilegally plying for hire and not working for any private hire operator.

So this new 'name of operator on badge' rule has led to the ending of illegal pick ups in Leeds? :?

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If a private hire worked for multiple private hire companies then how would the customer know which company they were from or would you expect them to display 2 or 3 different company names.

The driver would call out the customers name and know their destination.

I think that often happens. :roll: :roll: :roll:

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You need a letter in Leeds from the the company which you are going to work for to authorise the council putting you on their operators licence otherwise people could give any company name and never even work for them.

And?

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The letter you need for leaving a company is to say you have returned the equipment to the company you are leaving. Going back to the old radio days drivers would keep a radio and if near an address that was given over the radio would pick the job up before the vehicle that was sent for the job arrived.

Who gave the council powers to get involved in this private/commercial transaction?

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I don't see an issue having a letter from the companies you work or worked for , if you don't owe any money or keep any equipment that doesn't belong to you why have a problem ?? .... My only issue here as APH states is the condition that ph will ply for hire ???? Remember Saturday night on woodhouse lane APH they do anyway !!!!! Lol


Yes they already illegally ply for hire even when registered with a private hire operator, imagine what it would be like if they didn't have to be registered. It is common knowledge in Leeds that some operators are charging for the use of stickers only so some of these hard core private hire drivers can illegally ply for hire.

As for being self employed, there are over 5000 private hire in Leeds who can only be registered with 1 operator at a time. They pay the operator for a service only and can move at any time they like to another operator. I have not heard of anybody being challenged over their employment status and believe HMRC understand and accepts this is how the taxi & private hire trade operates.


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Under the LG(MP)A 1976 a private hire can only be booked through an operator so it would seem pretty obvious why a driver or vehicle licence would have the operators name on to which you were working.

And what happens if they wish to work with a number of different operators?

And why does the council want the operator's name on the driver's badge? Why not just on the application form?


Which operator in their right mind would want you working for another competitor.

I would call it keeping good in house records, what it says on the badge it should say in the council records.


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Yea course drivers should return equipment and the police would make the driver return it vehicle licensing know where the drivers gone to work they also have the address and phone number of the driver and would make him return any equipment and that's theft. We have always had the operators number on badge and vehicle licence and course there is no problem with that but that does not stop drivers plying for hire. What im saying just because a few drivers might of not returned equipment forcing drivers to get a leaving letter is not the right way to deal with it. And like i say this as only happened in the last Year. Its easy to stop drivers plying for hire most company's have data head terminals in the car all vehicle licensing need to do is find a line of private hire drivers outside a venue look at there data heads and see if they have a job on there screen for that venue i have never seen or heard of this happening

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