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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 6:10 pm 
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See where your coming from Capt but obviously the trade ensuring they have a cllr on that Ctte negates this bullsh6t ????????????


Conflict of interest?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 7:20 pm 
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getting elected as a councillor is one thing. getting put on the licensing committee when you have connections to the trade would be another.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 3:12 pm 
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getting elected as a councillor is one thing. getting put on the licensing committee when you have connections to the trade would be another.


i DONT THINK SO................BUT OF COURSE AS A MEMBER OF ????????????? PARTY YOU CAN ENSURE AT PARTY MEETINGS THAT YOUR ADVICE AND CONCERNS ARE VOICED AT THAT CTTE..........................AND THEN WERE ANOTHER CLLR ON ANOTHER CTTE TO HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON ANOTHER CTTE YOU PROMOTE HIS VIEWS WITH PARTY AGREEMENT.

ALL PARTY'S MEET SEPARATELY PRIOR TO CTTE MEETINGS TO DECIDE PARTY POLICY .....................SO IF YOUR PARTY HAS THE MAJORITY YOU PRE EMPT THE CTTE DECISION AT THE PARTY MEETING.

THOUGHT ALL WOULD BE AWARE OF THAT!

for example your party has a majority on the Licensing Ctte and a fare increase is on the agenda ...................the party meet prior to the ctte meeting decide policy with YOUR input go to the Ctte meeting and vote it through ......................its immaterial what the opposition spout if you have the majority :D simples :lol:

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 3:39 pm 
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grandad wrote:
getting elected as a councillor is one thing. getting put on the licensing committee when you have connections to the trade would be another.


i DONT THINK SO................BUT OF COURSE AS A MEMBER OF ????????????? PARTY YOU CAN ENSURE AT PARTY MEETINGS THAT YOUR ADVICE AND CONCERNS ARE VOICED AT THAT CTTE..........................AND THEN WERE ANOTHER CLLR ON ANOTHER CTTE TO HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON ANOTHER CTTE YOU PROMOTE HIS VIEWS WITH PARTY AGREEMENT.

ALL PARTY'S MEET SEPARATELY PRIOR TO CTTE MEETINGS TO DECIDE PARTY POLICY .....................SO IF YOUR PARTY HAS THE MAJORITY YOU PRE EMPT THE CTTE DECISION AT THE PARTY MEETING.

THOUGHT ALL WOULD BE AWARE OF THAT!

for example your party has a majority on the Licensing Ctte and a fare increase is on the agenda ...................the party meet prior to the ctte meeting decide policy with YOUR input go to the Ctte meeting and vote it through ......................its immaterial what the opposition spout if you have the majority :D simples :lol:
Ah but if you are the only one in your controlling party to think in a particular way then the party will not follow what you want.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 3:49 pm 
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grandad wrote:
trotskys twin wrote:
grandad wrote:
getting elected as a councillor is one thing. getting put on the licensing committee when you have connections to the trade would be another.


i DONT THINK SO................BUT OF COURSE AS A MEMBER OF ????????????? PARTY YOU CAN ENSURE AT PARTY MEETINGS THAT YOUR ADVICE AND CONCERNS ARE VOICED AT THAT CTTE..........................AND THEN WERE ANOTHER CLLR ON ANOTHER CTTE TO HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON ANOTHER CTTE YOU PROMOTE HIS VIEWS WITH PARTY AGREEMENT.

ALL PARTY'S MEET SEPARATELY PRIOR TO CTTE MEETINGS TO DECIDE PARTY POLICY .....................SO IF YOUR PARTY HAS THE MAJORITY YOU PRE EMPT THE CTTE DECISION AT THE PARTY MEETING.

THOUGHT ALL WOULD BE AWARE OF THAT!

for example your party has a majority on the Licensing Ctte and a fare increase is on the agenda ...................the party meet prior to the ctte meeting decide policy with YOUR input go to the Ctte meeting and vote it through ......................its immaterial what the opposition spout if you have the majority :D simples :lol:[/quote

]Ah but if you are the only one in your controlling party to think in a particular way then the party will not follow what you want.

Of course thats right but by being at the Party meeting you ensure their aware of the trades stance and the implications electorally for not following their views...........ie they lose electoral support ......................you never achieve all you want in a democracy but this scenario ensures decisions are not taken due lack of Trade input as i believe is what happens presently.

And remember Councillors are instructed by their Ward Party's .........so that in effect is where you flood the meetings and ensure their receptive to your views ............they ignore the Wards views you DE SELECT THEM :badgrin:

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 8:46 am 
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trotskys twin wrote:

And remember Councillors are instructed by their Ward Party's .........so that in effect is where you flood the meetings and ensure their receptive to your views ............they ignore the Wards views you DE SELECT THEM :badgrin:

That may be how it works in the big city but in Smallville it isn't quite the same. I have attended 2 council committee meetings this year and it was virtually a rubber stamping exercise.

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Review of taxi licensing rules after driver killed Sunderland teenager

COUNCIL bosses have vowed to look into tightening the rules on taxi drivers after a meeting with the parents of a girl killed by a cabbie.

Sunderland City Council said it was following Government guidance when it granted David Baillie a Hackney licence, despite his appalling driving record.

The 40-year-old had eight previous convictions for driving while disqualified and had been banned from the roads nine times, when the council gave him a licence days before he knocked down 17-year-old Sarah Jane Burke in Ormonde Street.

The council insisted it had followed guidance issued by the Department for Transport, which states applicants should be “free of driving or motoring convictions for a period of one to three years”.

All of Baillie’s convictions were committed before 2000.

Sarah Jane’s parents, Stephen and Theresa, are calling for tougher rules to ensure others do not face the loss they have, as well as greater sentences for offenders.

With the backing of charity Road Peace, they hope the more stringent rules will prove a deterrent.

After a face-to-face meeting between the Burkes and council leader Paul Watson, the council has said it will be carrying out a review of its regulations.

Coun Watson said: “As a result of meeting with Mr and Mrs Burke, I have asked our licensing team to review our guidelines and compare them with those of other local authorities across the country.

“I want to ensure Sunderland’s are the most stringent and we are leading the way in making our city safe for its people.

“I will also be writing to the Secretary of State for Transport to urge him to review the guidelines his department issued to local authorities.

“So, when considering an application for a Hackney carriage or private hire vehicle driver’s licence, and a driver has previous driving convictions, they state that the number and type of previous convictions can be taken into account by us, as well as the time that has elapsed since the last conviction – which is the present position.

“We do need to be proportionate in the decisions we take as a licensing authority.

“Any decision we take to not issue a licence can then be appealed through the courts.

“However, having met with Mr and Mrs Burke, I would like to support them in their efforts to see something positive come from their tragic loss.”

Baillie had been overtaking another car on the wrong side of the road last September when he struck art student Sarah Jane, who was a high achiever in her studies and hoped to follow a career in fashion journalism.

He was found guilty of death by careless driving in June after a trial at Newcastle Crown Court and was jailed for seven years.

http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/crim ... -1-6764033

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