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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 12:02 pm 
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Perhaps a few others have tried this mind you it does ensure numbers never go down for the prospective advertisers I suppose.


Oh dear, the barrel is being scraped. :shock:

Advertisers, well have a look around and see how many TDO have. You can also ask any trade supplier if they have been approached by TDO for advertisement.

You could ask the administrators, and they might tell you that a number of advertisers have approached TDO, and the answer to their requests, is open for all to see. :shock:

However, all this is masking the big question, where is M&R in the wrong?

We have had many replies as to the structure, but no-one has pointed out where, in their view, M&R has got it wrong.

You can't even get the author right. I only wish I had the ability to write such a paper. :roll: :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: By Day Dreaming
PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 12:03 pm 
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Nidge wrote:
What you going to do with the offices then Sussex Solicitors money going downhill???


Nigel, was you born this thick, or was it an acquired taste. :?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 12:18 pm 
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thats why the yahoo forum is like a secret society!


Please quote the facts correctly, there is no Yahoo Forum


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 1:06 pm 
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Andy wrote:
Now to be accepted on our closed list means you had to tell me a few downright lies.


I didn't tell you anything, I was there long before you. :wink:


This means you told downright lies to someone else then. From the origins of Vince Chin in the early nineties it has always been a requirement to declare yourself before admission was allowed. So you did not lie to me, it was to someone else...either way it does display a code of ethics, which for the administrator of a group does ring a few alarm bells. Abusers and Thief's I can deal with...liers however will always be beyond redemption.

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 Post subject: Re: By Day Dreaming
PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 1:46 pm 
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I do not know about Mansfield, but London and Canterbury would be pleased to issue you a badge and a plate if you could take the time and trouble to fulfill the entry requirements...but therin lies the problem methinks, if its not handed out on a plate or snatched then some amongst us cannot be bothered can we?


For the record, where I work it's the same criteria to become a HC driver, as a PH driver. So that's that myth out of the window.

However I'm interested to find out what you mean by handed a plate, or snatched.

I can work out the handed a plate bit, that's what happens in your manor, Nigel's manor, and in London.

But snatched. :? :? :? :? :?

Clearly you support it there, because you have benefited by not having to pay tens of thousands, but you don't want others to be afforded the same opportunity.

As I said, do as I say, not as I do. :shock:


It has worked out quite well in Canterbury...eventually...after buying my plate in the early nineties (yes, I do do as I say!) our council deregulated a few months later. So yes, I had to cough up, and lost the ruddy lot. Hackney plates went from around 50 to over 100 almost overnight. exacerbated by the recession it was not a pretty sight.

The trade reverted to opportunism, Johny come lately drivers and the weekend Jockeys out for beer & holiday money. There was no commitment to the trade. Vehicle standards were the first to show the lack of funds in the trade. Thankfully this was recognised by local council with trade consultation, initially forced through via Wednesbury agreement but today a far more gentlemanly approach via our trade forum of mutual consultation. We are still "those taxi drivers" but progress is being made without the need to shout and stamp our feet in tantrum anymore. Although it has been a slow process we now find ourselves in a situation of regulation by quality rather than by quantity. Driver entry standards have been enhanced and COF made more stringent. All of this was the ideal example to rubbish the OFT report, showing that a controlled trade, whether by quantity or quality, it delivers a better service to our paymasters, the traveling public.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 1:56 pm 
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Andy wrote:
Perhaps a few others have tried this mind you it does ensure numbers never go down for the prospective advertisers I suppose.


Oh dear, the barrel is being scraped. :shock:

Advertisers, well have a look around and see how many TDO have. You can also ask any trade supplier if they have been approached by TDO for advertisement.

You could ask the administrators, and they might tell you that a number of advertisers have approached TDO, and the answer to their requests, is open for all to see. :shock:


Yes, I see what you mean...I got that one wrong, and all credit to you for not going down the road of commercialism to turn a few extra shillings. You have earned a few Brownie points...I will always give respect to a man prepared to fight his corner, no matter how misguided he may be. 8)

That said, it does beg the question...how is your operation funded? Costs and your enormous time on here does not come cheap. Who is your paymaster Sus?

Andy


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 1:58 pm 
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thats why the yahoo forum is like a secret society!
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Err...not quite right buddy....one, we are no longer on Yahoo....we cover the UK, not just London and Two, If you are a Hackney driver you will be made wekcome, whatever your views....trust me, honest Guvnor... I'm a Taxi Driver :)

Best wishes

Andy


What i meant that you said that if you have something to hide then it looks untrustworthy and the secret society look of the list makes it look like theres something to hide.

Why not have a forum like this one that people can read :?:


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 Post subject: Re: By Day Dreaming
PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 1:59 pm 
Sussex Man wrote:
Nidge wrote:
What you going to do with the offices then Sussex Solicitors money going downhill???


Nigel, was you born this thick, or was it an acquired taste. :?


Acquired youth 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)


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 Post subject: Re: By Day Dreaming
PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 2:25 pm 
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Sussex Man wrote:
Nidge wrote:
What you going to do with the offices then Sussex Solicitors money going downhill???


Nigel, was you born this thick, or was it an acquired taste. :?


Statements such as the one above are totally uncalled for, .....

....Next time you post an insult maybe you would also let everyone know where you can be found, ......


He can be found either at the Novelty Rock Emporium, Candy Floss Stand or the Kiss Me Quick hat stall.

Regards

Claude :evil:


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 Post subject: Re: By Day Dreaming
PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 2:41 pm 
.>"....handed a plate, or snatched.."<

You filthy beast.


Regards
Claude :evil:


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 Post subject: UK Taxi discussion list
PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 3:26 pm 
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What i meant that you said that if you have something to hide then it looks untrustworthy and the secret society look of the list makes it look like theres something to hide.

Why not have a forum like this one that people can read :?:


Mr Guest. Our group has stood the test of time, the UK Taxi discussion list is the longest running group of its kind in the UK...Fact! We have no time for anonymous posters still playing out "Boys own" fantasy's of secret identities and using it for sweeping statements without fear of accountability...that can be fun in its right place...where the main need is for a 8loody good intellectual scrap! However, within our "Hallowed " :) fortress of solitude we talk Taxi talk...and everyone knows whom they are talking to. With no moderation bar if the cardinal sin of attacking the person rather than the subject, or confidential content is carried outside the group to any members detriment...everyone has an opinion and I would fight to the ends of the earth to maintain that persons right to voice it. even if I disagreed and thought him talking complete 80loks.

If you do wish to read the content and get involved then thats very easy, you apply to join and provided you are UK Hackney, then in you come...nothing simpler...nothing sinister, secret society and no funny handshakes or "Show us your winkle" (Whitstable Costa nostra :D :D )...if you are not UK Hackney, well thats a No No I'm afraid and it does become an exclusive club.But I do sincerely wish you well in finding a platform commensurate with your aspirations to our beloved trade.

Best wishes

Andy


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 3:38 pm 
Sussex Man wrote:

Well I'm pleased in your area PH and HC get on, it may come as a big shock to you, but that happens thoughout the country. :shock:

My point about rubbishing some of the crap spewed from certain sections of the trade, is shared by many. However if people believe I spew out rubbish, I can think of no better place to point out my errors, than on TDO.

Will the OFT be my salvation, well we should find out in 24 hours. :wink:


Unfortunately the two sides of the trade do not get on everywhere, as can be seen on these various Internet groups, and particularly those that have fallen fallow because of it.

Should the "unthinkable" happen and the OFT report falls; can we have an undertaking from you to reveal yourself at Maurice's feet on the Damascus road and be seen rolling about with him and Nigel in the playground...Comon "Sus"...show some conviction to your beliefs! :wink: :wink: :D


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This means you told downright lies to someone else then. From the origins of Vince Chin in the early nineties it has always been a requirement to declare yourself before admission was allowed. So you did not lie to me, it was to someone else...either way it does display a code of ethics, which for the administrator of a group does ring a few alarm bells. Abusers and Thief's I can deal with...liers however will always be beyond redemption.



Look, please carry out your new vet of your membership, and one day you will realize that nothing, that's nothing, stays secret on the net.

You should know, I mean how many drivers have got into trouble on your forum saying things about the circuits, and then finding out that they are no-longer on that circuit?

So please, sort out your own short-comings before you start preaching to those who wish to remain anon, or slightly anon.
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Claude wrote:

He can be found either at the Novelty Rock Emporium, Candy Floss Stand or the Kiss Me Quick hat stall.


More likely at the offices of De-limit and Lovett Solicitors. :wink:

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Andy wrote:

Unfortunately the two sides of the trade do not get on everywhere, as can be seen on these various Internet groups, and particularly those that have fallen fallow because of it.


The reason some don't get on, is because short-sited idiots call them all scum or scabs. And some forums think it's funny to play along to that sort of ignorance.

If I was to tar the HC trade, the same way some forums and the T&G tar the PH trade, then no-doubt people like your good-self would argue otherwise.

Well, what is good for that goose, is also good for the gander.

For the record, most of the member/guests/posters on TDO are working in the HC/taxi trade. Thankfully they aren't as ignorant as a few elsewhere.

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